Oh, nice. I figured they were gone for good, as I know some lords from a defeated faction will sometimes just leave the area.
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Fuck this, I'm just hemorrhaging people it seems. I'd rather have the 10-12 solid team with the right skills and then grab another dozen knight types than this circus.
The Dauntless One
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Anyone figured out how to mod the Custom Knight Orders so that equipping them doesn't take so damn long? This 6 months to purchase a shield crap is ridiculous.
Over 11 the companions just will eventually leave no matter how happy you keep them, I thought. Even if you find 12 companions that match with the companion bubble, more than 11 is not supposed to be possible long term.
People have asked this kind of question on the official boards. I'll just say that the pendor boards don't feel like a very friendly place when it comes to talking about improving the mod through edits. I will just say that. I will not say anything like "bunch of crazy fanatics" or anything.
But seriously, I don't think anyone has really been looking into this stuff yet. 3.6 is still very recent.
wamphyr
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Well, it's easy. Get Morgh's item editor, decrease the cost of the item and increase it's availability. Backup the mod files and the saves, just to be sure. If you want to edit other stats, like dmg or armour, be careful, enemy troops might also use that item and you are in for a world of trouble.
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Gavinmad
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So it seems like the least annoying way to found your own knighthood order is to do it as someone's vassal. That way you can steadily build them up without being under any real pressure to perform. The main drawback to that is that your order is permanently stuck with whatever culture you were a vassal to when you founded the order, and I always like going Pendor when I found my own Kingdom.
So while it's a novel idea, I think the current implementation of a custom knighthood order is a complete swing and miss. You have to invest a completely absurb amount of time and money to end up with ultra elite honor troops, but like I said before, for that much time and money you could just upgrade the fuck out of an existing knighthood chapter and have Pendor conquered in the time it would have taken to get your own order up and running. Not to mention the fact that you have to pay the ridiculous costs for both your Knights and your Sergeants separately. So we're talking well over a million denars once everything is said and done. You can upgrade the equipment of your sergeants and your knights at the same time though, assuming you have that much cash.
So while it's a novel idea, I think the current implementation of a custom knighthood order is a complete swing and miss. You have to invest a completely absurb amount of time and money to end up with ultra elite honor troops, but like I said before, for that much time and money you could just upgrade the fuck out of an existing knighthood chapter and have Pendor conquered in the time it would have taken to get your own order up and running. Not to mention the fact that you have to pay the ridiculous costs for both your Knights and your Sergeants separately. So we're talking well over a million denars once everything is said and done. You can upgrade the equipment of your sergeants and your knights at the same time though, assuming you have that much cash.
Tuco
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fyi I had to do the import/export companions in 3.6 (Which is different than editing companions before you acquire them). You're past needing this but I figured I'd post the information necessary to do it:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.p...109481.new#new
Summary:
You need to get the menus.txt from there and edit it for PoP 3.6. I did the editing and pasted the relevant text in that thread.
Tuco
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I see what you mean about how slow it is to found your own order. It's fine if you have very long playthroughs, but if you're like me and most of your playthroughs are with teleportation and no fog of war then the orders are a bit unusable. Plus I really hate losing my companions since I prefer to roll with them and only them.
I think my last few long playthroughs were at 300, 400, 500, 360 days. I haven't done the math but it seems like it'd take around 500 days to level an order to be the same capability as a typical high level order. I guess I can't complain that their mode doesn't support playthroughs that cheat and don't play the game properly, but it would have been nice if you could replace losing your companion for a month with spending N gold.
On the plus side, as long as whatever logarithmic gains aren't too step there's no question that a custom order will beat the shit out of a set order, if only because you can equip that order with a doom mace in addition to a sword.
I think my last few long playthroughs were at 300, 400, 500, 360 days. I haven't done the math but it seems like it'd take around 500 days to level an order to be the same capability as a typical high level order. I guess I can't complain that their mode doesn't support playthroughs that cheat and don't play the game properly, but it would have been nice if you could replace losing your companion for a month with spending N gold.
On the plus side, as long as whatever logarithmic gains aren't too step there's no question that a custom order will beat the shit out of a set order, if only because you can equip that order with a doom mace in addition to a sword.
What version of MB and PoP are you running Tuco? And if you updated to the latest(s) are you noticing more lag than before with battles at 600?
I had to reduce mine to 400 and still get some micro-stutters. But I used to be fine at 600+ when I was last playing PoP a year or so ago.
I had to reduce mine to 400 and still get some micro-stutters. But I used to be fine at 600+ when I was last playing PoP a year or so ago.
Gavinmad
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Yeah at first I thought that it was pretty fucking sweet that the doom mace was an option, but after giving it some thought, who the hell cares? By the time you've equipped your knights, you've already spent a few hundred thousand gold, basically double that if you've also equipped your sergeants. I mean if you really felt like just dicking around for awhile, sure, the doom maces would be great for keeping the cash rolling in, but otherwise, there is no reason not to just steamroll the map once your dudes are done.
Tuco
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I agree, Gavin. I started the doom mace upgrade and will see how it goes when it's finished, but if you can get 40+ even average quality horsemen with doom maces equipped you can drastically increase your earning potential from prisoners.
I am getting a lot more lag/micro stutters in >500 person battles than I was before, yeah.
Gavinmad
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Yeah the quickest way to get your custom order ready for the battlefield is to go weapon - shield - mount - body armor. That screenshot was maybe a week before helms were finished being equipped. I'm almost done with boots, then its gloves, doom mace for a blunt weapon, and then upgrade them from ironbred chargers to netherworld chargers. Ironbred are pretty much a perfect stepping stone mount, quick and cheap to train and durable enough that your knights will stay mounted for most of the battle. I think Ironbred Chargers are like 35-40 days to equip. Netherworld are like 100, so definitely saving that for last.
I did this with a modified roland. My first try I just used the level cheat to level him up to 2k+, but i didn't realize that gives him a weekly salary of 400k so I scrapped that and started a new playthrough after cheating his stats in Morgh's. You could get pretty close to my stats without editing a companion but it would take hundreds of hours longer, and the custom order is already tedious enough as it is.
That being said, good god these chicks kick some ass. I mean I thought my one playthrough with the super upgraded shadow legion was top shit but a pimped out custom order is a league of their fucking own. I haven't even finished equipping my sergeants yet, I decided to go melitine longbow/arrows with ancient rune axe and make them siege specialists. If your custom order is fierdsvain you can turned armored axemen into honor sergeants, and at max honor discount it's only 7 honor per.
I took about 200 of them up against Wolfbode's 1k, and I think I had maybe 10 wounded saints and none killed. Gonna try a heretic army next and see if they still get mangled by demonic magni.
I did this with a modified roland. My first try I just used the level cheat to level him up to 2k+, but i didn't realize that gives him a weekly salary of 400k so I scrapped that and started a new playthrough after cheating his stats in Morgh's. You could get pretty close to my stats without editing a companion but it would take hundreds of hours longer, and the custom order is already tedious enough as it is.
That being said, good god these chicks kick some ass. I mean I thought my one playthrough with the super upgraded shadow legion was top shit but a pimped out custom order is a league of their fucking own. I haven't even finished equipping my sergeants yet, I decided to go melitine longbow/arrows with ancient rune axe and make them siege specialists. If your custom order is fierdsvain you can turned armored axemen into honor sergeants, and at max honor discount it's only 7 honor per.
I took about 200 of them up against Wolfbode's 1k, and I think I had maybe 10 wounded saints and none killed. Gonna try a heretic army next and see if they still get mangled by demonic magni.