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Cybsled
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None of those things addressed inflation, though. In fact they made things worse. The only thing that made inflation somewhat controlled was the gold cap (players couldn't have more than 500k, guilds I forget but it was like 1-2 million at first or something)
The taxes you paid went directly to the guild that controlled the town and when the game came out, the guild set the tax rate. House taxes were stupidly expensive and if you weren't in a town owning guild, it became hard to afford without constant farming. When the game was in its prime, I remember our towns pulling in millions every week, which the leaders then split with the guild. Some weeks I'd get hundreds of thousands of gold in pay because we were pulling in so much gold
The taxes you paid went directly to the guild that controlled the town and when the game came out, the guild set the tax rate. House taxes were stupidly expensive and if you weren't in a town owning guild, it became hard to afford without constant farming. When the game was in its prime, I remember our towns pulling in millions every week, which the leaders then split with the guild. Some weeks I'd get hundreds of thousands of gold in pay because we were pulling in so much gold
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Gold cap doesnt mean shit because all your guild, or people for that matter, have to do is invest in some rare commodities and turn that gold into "stuff" to be used in whatever or just sold later when the gold dries up or you need some. Yeah, storage would be a consideration. But there are ways around this as well like alt accounts and other shit.
Inflation is just inevitably going to happen in games like these where gold and mats and even items are just made out of thin air every time someone kills something or a chest is opened or whatever. Taxes would have been a way to curtail this to a point IF it wasnt some grand wealth redistribution like it was in this game, especially at launch, not sure where it went. But yeah usually one guild was controlling the "central hub" of the cities, where all the trade and primo properties were. And the gold just redistributed from others right to their hands.
Taxes should have been the opposite, give the players that control the city(s) some other perks but tax the shit out of them for owning the city. The way they had it was the rich just got richer, while the plebs could not keep up. It became a thing, even back then, where the top guild could afford to basically outfit the entire army with primo gear through funding the crafting and gathering so that there was a tipping point of power that basically no one could overcome.
It was just a poorly thought out system. Games like these basically need an "Economist" to set up economy that will work. So many moving parts. And like I said, gold just created out of thin air? You might laugh, but yeah, games NEED someone that understands economies better and help set up ones in game.
Inflation is just inevitably going to happen in games like these where gold and mats and even items are just made out of thin air every time someone kills something or a chest is opened or whatever. Taxes would have been a way to curtail this to a point IF it wasnt some grand wealth redistribution like it was in this game, especially at launch, not sure where it went. But yeah usually one guild was controlling the "central hub" of the cities, where all the trade and primo properties were. And the gold just redistributed from others right to their hands.
Taxes should have been the opposite, give the players that control the city(s) some other perks but tax the shit out of them for owning the city. The way they had it was the rich just got richer, while the plebs could not keep up. It became a thing, even back then, where the top guild could afford to basically outfit the entire army with primo gear through funding the crafting and gathering so that there was a tipping point of power that basically no one could overcome.
It was just a poorly thought out system. Games like these basically need an "Economist" to set up economy that will work. So many moving parts. And like I said, gold just created out of thin air? You might laugh, but yeah, games NEED someone that understands economies better and help set up ones in game.
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Daidraco
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Animosity
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That was quicker than I expected.
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Grim1
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This is just sad. I was watching a recent video about the games with the most players. It was created a bit before New World's closure announcement. New World was in the top ten, with more players than many mmos that are still chugging along, making money and not even close to top ten in player numbers.
It just means to me that any game that is not run by an actual game company, is subject to the whims of the the tech overlord fuckwits. So any publisher or game attached to Microsoft or Amazon, etc. Will always have an axe over their heads, no matter how popular the game is.
Fuck AI, fuck Amazon, fuck MIcrosoft, fuck Google and all the other tech companies with too much money who have ruined gaming, the music industy, AND Hollywood.
It just means to me that any game that is not run by an actual game company, is subject to the whims of the the tech overlord fuckwits. So any publisher or game attached to Microsoft or Amazon, etc. Will always have an axe over their heads, no matter how popular the game is.
Fuck AI, fuck Amazon, fuck MIcrosoft, fuck Google and all the other tech companies with too much money who have ruined gaming, the music industy, AND Hollywood.
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skylan
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25 mil is a drop in the bucket for Amazon, I'd think they would rather it die than have someone else turn it into something successful.
Tarrant
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Sadly I think this is the case too. It makes zero sense for them to sit on it other than "because fuck you".
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Protecting the IP, making sure some execs don't get to see how someone else could make the game work if they just did x, potentially re-opening it later(unlikely). Ultimately they're not going to sell the game for 25m, hell they could have probably made 25m keeping the game running with no/few updates anyway, I highly doubt Amazon, owning AWS stuff were actively losing money on this game after the obvious initial development massive costs, it didn't have crazy numbers but it had more than enough to keep the game afloat at the very least and likely making a bit of money.
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I doubt they were making ANY money on this. Their cash shop sucked and they didnt charge a sub, so pretty much the game lived and died on box sales. And I doubt they sold enough boxes yearly to keep the lights on. IMO it was pretty much the initial million players returning to check out the changes. I mean, not saying they didnt have ANY sales since, but I doubt it was enough to keep the shit going.
Its a shame too. The game was good. Prob the best MMOROG to come out in the last decade if not longer. Yeah it was lacking end game shit and some of the PvP stuff was kinda whack, but the bones were there. The combat was fresh and new, the game looked good, ran good (other than the war stuff in the beginning), had tons of shit to do leveling up... Plus they came out with this game in the PERFECT time, COVID lock downs. I mean, how perfect was that?Too bad they could not take it over the finish line in time.
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RobXIII
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It was impressive that for a very brief moment in time, they managed to Turn It Around(tm). I had fun in the initial rush, but never tried the new stuff.
Cybsled
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The sad thing is the new content brought back shitloads of people. I’m sure it would have fallen eventually into the same population lull eventually, but the cancellation timing was just so dumb. The game still had 2k+ player queues the day they announced the game was over
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The game need subs. It was just a bad model from a monetization standpoint.
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