NFL 2017-18: Watch athletes destroy their brains

Merrith

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He just hasn't looked good in quite a while. Last year was a Chip Kelly aberration. This is a guy that still needs to use his wheels instead of his arm many times. There's just no place for him today. He reminds me of Vick and Vick still got a job when people thought he had value.

That's my main problem with this narrative. It's non-football people trying to force a football decision on a team when they aren't qualified to make that decision. It's the worst form of SJW socialist bullshit going on today. If Kaep was asking the right price, was in the right shape, did the right things, etc, he'd be under contract today. No one knows why he isn't and I put that responsibility on the player who wants a job, not the employer. Time for merit to get back in our job based discussions.

I think the SJW fear is overblown. Last year wasn't an aberration like he was on a team that was helping his numbers. His team was terrible. Worst defense in the league, terrible receivers. Also a lot of the narrative about what he can and can't do as a passer is based on old assumptions.

Colin Kaepernick is Better than Joe Flacco
http://presnapreads.com/2017/07/30/colin-kaepernick-is-better-than-joe-flacco/
Writer does seem to have a bit of a vendetta against Flacco it seems, although the main narrative I took is Ravens have forced Flacco to do too much on his own since his SB win. But the Kaep stuff is further down in the article (random Rivers mention in there too).

The depth of Kaepernick’s throws wasn’t the only reason he had a lower completion percentage last year. While Flacco lost a reception to receiver error once every 17 attempts, Kaepernick lost one once every 8.49 attempts. Nobody in the league lost completions on accurate passes because of receiver error as often as the San Francisco 49ers quarterback did.

Kaepernick is 29 years old, fully healthy and coming off his best season. He has shown development, growing from a quarterback with a narrow skill set who was reliant on his scheme into someone with a wider skill set who has now shown functional ability in multiple schemes. The criticisms of Kaepernick are outdated. He used to run out of clean pockets, stare down his first read and panic if he had to hold the ball in the pocket. That’s no longer who he is.

In 2016, Kaepernick showed off an ability to make subtle movements in the pocket while keeping his eyes up to diagnose coverages downfield. He showed off poise and precision with his movement in the pocket, he got off his first reads in a timely manner and kept his eyes up at all times. He developed an ability to throw from the left flat, something he never had as a rookie, and made better decisions both in terms of attacking coverages and picking his spots for when to scramble.

The cruel irony is Kaepernick was called a superstar when he wasn’t close to a superstar because of his team’s success. Now the same inability to see the context of his performances is allowing people to argue that he’s a bad quarterback. Allowing people to pit him against second-string and third-string players when he’s a superior player to many starting quarterbacks in this league.
 

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How often did you watch him play? He always looked like hot garbage to me. Then again, I'm a Niner hater.
 

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How often did you watch him play? He always looked like hot garbage to me. Then again, I'm a Niner hater.

Didn't get to see a lot of his games, but did watch some. Always seemed to be playing better than the results. His receiver play was unreal bad (although given who they were fielding, that's not too surprising), and his D blew something like 3 double digit leads in game he was in I believe? Not Chargers bad (I'm pretty sure there's never been a better 5-11 team in league history), but bad.

Not saying he's a world beater by any stretch, or that a lot of teams should even be looking at him. But depending how a few of the young guys drafted this year do, there's at least 3-5 teams that will be settling for much worse play at QB than what he would give (assuming he actually would be dedicated to football and wasn't too out of shape as others have noted).
 

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I mean I agree there are definitely worse QB's out there, especially at the backup spots. But no one is falling over themselves for a mediocre QB with issues obviously. You don't see a lot of Niners fans being sorry he's gone and they're starting fucking Hoyer lol.
 

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I mean I agree there are definitely worse QB's out there, especially at the backup spots. But no one is falling over themselves for a mediocre QB with issues obviously. You don't see a lot of Niners fans being sorry he's gone and they're starting fucking Hoyer lol.

Niners fans know it's going to be a few years anyways. Kaep is better than Hoyer too haha. But I'm sure Kaep and Gabbert both are happy as hell to be out of San Fran (even if I think they killed it in 1st round of the draft this year). As others have noted, Kaepernick being a potential starter actually closes off backup spots on a lot of teams who just wouldn't want that sort of guy in the backup role. Considering he said he'd stand this year for the anthem, I feel like any "distraction" would be more manufactured then reality at this point. But perceptions and bottom lines matter, and he plays the most visible position too. I'm sure even he knows there are consequences from his protest, and shouldn't be surprising it will affect his chances of playing going forward.
 

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If a team really thought Kaepernick could lead them to wins over what they have in place and they actually WANT to win I think he'd be on a roster now. Who knows what teams are thinking generally though when they give insane contracts to the Brock Osweilers of the world.

Talent will generally override distractions, hell you could probably even stab a fella or something and still get to play. (if you're good enough)
 

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If a team really thought Kaepernick could lead them to wins over what they have in place and they actually WANT to win I think he'd be on a roster now. Who knows what teams are thinking generally though when they give insane contracts to the Brock Osweilers of the world.

Talent will generally override distractions, hell you could probably even stab a fella or something and still get to play. (if you're good enough)

Haha speaking of the want to win thing, stuff out there about Jets potential tank job. But again, I think there are several teams that probably think he could lead to increased wins this year, but if you have a young guy you're grooming, you might not want to bring in a guy who could be a potential starter. Then you have other situations like Jacksonville and you just have to wonder what is going on. Bortles 2 years ago looked like a breakout player, now he's battling with Chad Henne for starting job.
 

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No one has shown me he is willing to take a pay cut or is in football shape. Those are realistic concerns he hasn't mitigated. Until he shows that, I completely agree with the NFL. On the SJW front, that is the only front the MSM is pushing. They don't know if he's in shape or the contract he's willing to take. So, what facts do they have on their front except a black man being held down by the system? Seriously?

Edit- he has looked good at times. He almost beat a flawed Dolphins team and a few others last year. He was still limited even with Kelly setting the offense for a running QB. And few coaches have been as good as Kelly to work around running QBs during the years. He's been around for a while and once SF lost their elite talent, he went down significantly as well. People seem to forget the amazing amount of talent collected before and during Harbaugh's time there. Kaep was leading a loaded as hell team during that time. But all we hear was led a SB bound team. That's old news at this point. Also, Flacco is a shit QB. Same argument for him as Kaep. Surrounding talent hid shitty QB.
 
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Haha speaking of the want to win thing, stuff out there about Jets potential tank job. But again, I think there are several teams that probably think he could lead to increased wins this year, but if you have a young guy you're grooming, you might not want to bring in a guy who could be a potential starter. Then you have other situations like Jacksonville and you just have to wonder what is going on. Bortles 2 years ago looked like a breakout player, now he's battling with Chad Henne for starting job.
Would you rather take a flyer on Kaepernick in Jacksonville or try to lose as many games as possible so you can draft Sam Darnold?
 
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Would you rather take a flyer on Kaepernick in Jacksonville or try to lose as many games as possible so you can draft Sam Darnold?

lol like signing Keep and throwing games are two different things. That's how you know he's being discriminated against.

You're telling me no team wants the #1 pick in next year's draft?
 
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A running QB who can toss it up for a PI flag and hide behind a top tier defense is going to look better than they are. Its what propped both Flacco and Wilson up, but they have rings because their teams actually had top tier RBs to add to that. Kaeperbro had a couple of decent seasons, before the ownership at SF decided to start eating their own poop, but he was already on the downswing because people figured out that he only checked down once and then ran.... always. Dude always was mediocre tier (at best) without adding in all the inflammatory attention whoring SJW shit he started pulling to cling to relevancy. The league is full of mediocre talents who get overpaid and if he had just kept his BLM hobby apart from his workplace, he could have been one of those guys and scrooge mcducking in his money, like Brock Lobster, Fitzmagic, Cutler, or Kyle Mother Fucking Orton. Instead he got a strong whiff of BLM snatch and fucked up his own career.

And on the SJW topic, there are to facets of this that have to give way at some point. First, at some point, the BLM crowd is going to realize that they are rallying behind a dude who is 1/4 black and was raised by rich white parents in whitey whitetown middle America. He is the ultimate Wigger, who went from cosplaying as a cholo with his tats to pretending to be a Nubian Prince when he decided to add a Foxy Brown 70s style afro to his look. In reality, the dude is fucking whiter than Shaun King and at some point the oppression point scoring people are going to bitch about that. Second, the NFL is eventually going to realize that they are catering to a bunch of whiners who don't even pay for their product (knockoff NFL gear and pirated broadcasts abound with this demographic) and go where the money is, which is the fat white patriotic flag loving redneck assholes who still buy tickets to the game and pay ten bucks or more for a glass of warm beer. Green is the ONLY color that will matter, when this is finally sorted out.

Final note, you don't see Asians marching around the NFL office over lack of representation (can anyone even name a single starter who is Asian and not some fat pacific islander guy on the line?), but here are BLM bitching about some Talcum X dude not getting a job in a sport where over half of the players are black. So ultimately, BLM is actually arguing that the NFL is racist, because it won't give a mostly white guy a job in a field dominated by blacks?
 

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Most Asian players are the big boys that you mention. Dat Nguyen was over 10 years ago and there's been a few others, but they're definitely not common.
 

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Would you rather take a flyer on Kaepernick in Jacksonville or try to lose as many games as possible so you can draft Sam Darnold?

Going to be competing with the Jets for that. I think Jacksonville is thinking they can get by with the better of the two (and honesty, that team has a lot of talent, they should only require decent QB play to flirt with 8-8).
 

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