NFL 2019 Season: It's Tricky!

pats got screwed, plain and simple, but there are positives that come from that loss.

1- offense seems to be starting to gel. could be wrong but we'll see if the offense gets better thru week 17.
2- defense showed that if the OFFENSE can score 24pts, they can most likely beat most if not all of the team in the league. they held KC to 3 points in the 2nd half.

RE the ravens..bills played them tough, and could beat the ravens if they play again, the one thing i am not seeing and i think D's need to do more of is.keep a fucking guy on the release back/TE when they go option formation. too many positive plays when the defender slides off the TE to go after jackson and bam little fucking flip pass to the TE/RB for ~7-15 yards... also they need to put a quick LB/safety to just key off of jackson..that is all he does,...follow/cover/try to tackle jackson. but i am not a coach so what do i know.

Not sure if for here, college football or tv shows? I know some here will enjoy watching it.

Amod feel free to move.

There were a lot of bad calls in that game. Listening to Patriots fans on reddit cry over thks has been cathartic. Look back at all the bullshit calls that have benefited the Patriots in the past (tripping againat the Cowboys, phantom RTP in the AFCC last year, the Myles Jack fumble recovery immediately come to mind). If Brady got tackled out of bounds like Mahomes did, they would call RTP. The DPI in the first drive were weak AF; that alone changed the course of the game.

I think we are all biased and think our team gets screwed all the time, but the officiating is so bad in the NFL, Im fairly confident every team benefits equally from bad reffing (except the Lions).

For the amount of experience he has I think Jimmy G has been fantastic. Was definitely cautious of the contract when it was first announced but I think the Niners will be happy with it.

Vanderhoof said:

Im fairly confident every team benefits equally from bad reffing

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Feels like the Rams actually have the edge on getting fucked by the refs this season. They should still be in the hunt for the division instead of on the verge of being eliminated from the playoffs. Granted if last night's Goff and McVay had been showing up all season long maybe the refs wouldn't be able to have so much of an impact, but when you're underperforming AND the refs are handing free touchdowns/turnovers to your opponent, it's a tough mountain to climb.

Vanderhoof said:

I think we are all biased and think our team gets screwed all the time, but the officiating is so bad in the NFL, Im fairly confident every team benefits equally from bad reffing (except the Lions).

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Over time, I think that's true. But in a sample size of a season, there can be big discrepancies on the effect bad calls have.

Bengals are usually bad enough at playing football that the refs largely don't matter anyway. Can't get screwed out of wins when you suck!

DickTrickle said:

Over time, I think that's true. But in a sample size of a season, there can be big discrepancies on the effect bad calls have.

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Agree. It effects the week to week outcomes immediately but over the course of seasons it averages out.

Before I drop the topic, one last thing: good teams find a way to win, despite bad officiating. The Patriots were given 125 yards in penalties but couldn't pull it together and win.

Alex said:

Bengals are usually bad enough at playing football that the refs largely don't matter anyway. Can't get screwed out of wins when you suck!

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Yeah but do they kick 7 field goals in a game and lose?

If the Bears beat the Packers this weekend the Rams will control their playoff fate. Man, too bad we have to play TWO division leaders on the road out of 3 games to finish the season.

(maybe this joke is too subtle, but then I'm sure the Rams will lay an egg against the Cowgirls just to spite me)

Daez how does it feel to be a shitlord underling to the NFC West leaders and number 1 seed Niners?

I was happy for you and the Rams last year and rooted for them in SB.

No doubt you guys are hot... but if I’m not mistaken one of your losses was the Seahawks yeah? Whom we just crushed and only lost by 1 to earlier in the season because of a last second missed FG. It should be a great game

Gavinmad said:

Feels like the Rams actually have the edge on getting fucked by the refs this season. They should still be in the hunt for the division instead of on the verge of being eliminated from the playoffs. Granted if last night's Goff and McVay had been showing up all season long maybe the refs wouldn't be able to have so much of an impact, but when you're underperforming AND the refs are handing free touchdowns/turnovers to your opponent, it's a tough mountain to climb.

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Missed field goals are the main reason they aren't still in division hunt. Should have swept Seattle but Zeurlein choked a fairly easy kick to win the game. Also missed a long one against the Steelers that could have had them within another kick of winning the game and they turned ball over on downs in field goal range later in the game. Not to mention Goff's shitty games against Steelers and Tampa.

Vanderhoof said:

Agree. It effects the week to week outcomes immediately but over the course of seasons it averages out.

Before I drop the topic, one last thing: good teams find a way to win, despite bad officiating. The Patriots were given 125 yards in penalties but couldn't pull it together and win.

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Are you implying the Patriots gained 125 yards off of terrible/blown ref calls in the game last night?

Just some of it. Definitely some weird calls, like the block in the back, a no call on roughing the passer, ticky tacky DPI or holding. Regardless, giving up that many yards in penalties (and that big of a disparity in penalty yards) is the kind of thing a coach talks about after the game as the obvious reason why their team lost.