Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

pharmakos

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it'll be nice just to play something that didn't get designed with a console controller in mind.
 
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With Unity, the input system is so fucking easy it's lulz. I made EQ into Joysticks, D-pad, and keyboard. was np.

Camera is the same too, first, third locked, third free; it's pretty basic stuff. Biggest problem with camera is third person where it'll go through walls if close quarters, but that was a quick bug fix
 

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With Unity, the input system is so fucking easy it's lulz. I made EQ into Joysticks, D-pad, and keyboard. was np
I haven't played with it, but after seeing some of the Crowfall streams (they had one where the dude was building powers for one of the classes) and what it's capable of doing natively, i can see where you are coming from.
 

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But they are slammed for not releasing shit, then when they do they are slammed for that too. When they used the store assets they were ripped a new one and now when they show shots of a first iteration of a in house design they are ripped a new one. What are they to do? I am really honestly wanting to know. To show it or not? they are slammed either way so whats the answer?

What's the answer? Don't open your mouth until you have something to show worth showing. That's almost always the answer.

If a company starts the hype train rolling, the audience is naturally going to expect to see results. You don't blame the audience for that, you blame the company that started the hype.

Once you've started the hype train rolling waaaay too early (which is clearly the case here) then you say "our bad, this shit is a long way out. You're going to have to wait" and you deal with the fallout from that. What you DON'T do is show off shitty, amateur-looking work and then when people complain say "Hey guys, none of this counts anyway, don't worry."

Basically, the answer is take what VR has done so far, and do the exact opposite.
 
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I feel like the ogre doesnt even want to exist. It looks sad that it was created.

It makes me think of a pug crossed with this guy:

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But that would be insulting Young Frankenstein.
 
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What's the answer? Don't open your mouth until you have something to show worth showing. That's almost always the answer.

If a company starts the hype train rolling, the audience is naturally going to expect to see results. You don't blame the audience for that, you blame the company that started the hype.

Once you've started the hype train rolling waaaay too early (which is clearly the case here) then you say "our bad, this shit is a long way out. You're going to have to wait" and you deal with the fallout from that. What you DON'T do is show off shitty, amateur-looking work and then when people complain say "Hey guys, none of this counts anyway, don't worry."

Basically, the answer is take what VR has done so far, and do the exact opposite.

This answer is about as correct as they come. All of the expectations of this project started from Brad misleading people. The kickstarter wasn't even for the game persay it was for him to start his company and hire staff before there was any game, hence why I called it a fraud and scam to begin with. Then even from the kickstarter and their own home pages to this day Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen - Get Involved are trying to peddle fake bullshit items before they have even gotten anywhere close to an item design stage. Now pre-orders are one thing but the dishonestly comes from the deception at all times Brad and Co. are pretending to be much more developed and further along than they actually are.

Why do they do this?

To garner attention and money, while this works to a degree in the short term in the longer term it destroys any possible goodwill or faith people might have in this project. Never once have they humbled themselves and apologized about deceiving their own fans and supports instead at every turn they double down on the bullshit and ask you to take a big steaming bite while calling it ice cream.

This leaves them open to more skepticism and scrutiny as it should. Never once they have under promised and over delivered they have always gone the other route and offered the world if you would just believe and give them money and in return they repeatedly deliver generic sub par and low quality work in every aspect, lore, art, community outreach, feedback, you name it. Of course we take it and exaggerate it some but everything said by a majority of the people here on the board is based about facts and past experiences. The people who try and hype this game are either willfully ignorant and want to live with their cognitive dissonance or they suffer from battered wife syndrome and irrationally thinks that Brad and Co. can do no wrong or that somehow it will be different this time.

Sure it's possible Brad can prove us wrong and makes the best MMORPG ever seen and those of us bashing it will end up with egg on our faces and your sweet prince will ride off into the sunset on his dirt bike pumping his fist in the air. However, the odds are certainty not in his favor. So if you are still in pro pantheon mode hunker down and take a bite because this is clearly chocolate and not one big steaming pile of shit.

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Amazing how one Tyen post can change the whole direction of the hivemind. I didn't know he was the hive queen. Seems etchazz still needs another nudge though.
No moron, i have been a supporter of the project from day one, i am not a huge fan of brad - he deserves some of the abuse he takes; he has done some stupid shit in the management of this and previous projects. I have never said it was vaporware, i have always thought unity was a powerful program with a lot to offer especially after see what the Crowfall team has done with it. My concern has always been that they will release a big steaming pile of shit, which is still my concern. I can explain it to you ad naseum, but i can't understand it for you.
 
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Someone forgot their meds today. It must be hard living day to day so delusional, I feel sorry for you bro so I am gonna do you a solid. Use the link below and get help. You're welcome.

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The delusional ones are the the morons calling this vapor and hating on every little thing just because that's all they can do. OMG TEH WOLFS MOWTH IZ RED IN ALPHA OMG OMG. DIS GAME WIL NEVOR RELES BECOS BRAD HAZ DRUGS LELELL. TEH OGER HAZ AUTISIM. U ITHER HATE TEH GAME OR U R GAY REETARDID. etc
 

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If you're autistic, do you read everything as if other people are autistic as well?

This might explain the disconnect with qwerty.
 
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What's the answer? Don't open your mouth until you have something to show worth showing. That's almost always the answer.

If a company starts the hype train rolling, the audience is naturally going to expect to see results. You don't blame the audience for that, you blame the company that started the hype.


Exactly this. If a movie put out a shit trailer and shit concept art would you watch it? Fuck no.
 

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No moron, i have been a supporter of the project from day one, i am not a huge fan of brad - he deserves some of the abuse he takes; he has done some stupid shit in the management of this and previous projects. I have never said it was vaporware, i have always thought unity was a powerful program with a lot to offer especially after see what the Crowfall team has done with it. My concern has always been that they will release a big steaming pile of shit, which is still my concern. I can explain it to you ad naseum, but i can't understand it for you.

Someone just got Rekt. I'm here all evening folks.
 
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No moron, i have been a supporter of the project from day one, i am not a huge fan of brad - he deserves some of the abuse he takes; he has done some stupid shit in the management of this and previous projects. I have never said it was vaporware, i have always thought unity was a powerful program with a lot to offer especially after see what the Crowfall team has done with it. My concern has always been that they will release a big steaming pile of shit, which is still my concern. I can explain it to you ad naseum, but i can't understand it for you.
Couldnt agree more with this post, I had actually given up on this game during the Fuzzy Troll era, only really started to have hope again when Joppa (Chris Perkins) joined up and pretty much took over