Star Trek: Picard

midnight's edge did a video today and they said there is a space trump in there. he looks pretty awesome.

While I don't think they'll go 100% parallel it would be funny if the shitlord memes turned NPC into Borg Drone (who are all redpilled and wanting to fuck Jeri Ryan).

Only for this forum, because the people bitching about it have selective blindness on past entertainment lol

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I don't even know if I wanna try to watch this. I don't want Patrick Stewart and TNG ruined for me.

Wait... so S1 of Picard is still a week or so out... they already finished S2 and are green lighting S3 but with different runners because S2 was too much like S1, of no one has seen any of it yet.

Add that to Picard essentially and openly saying this is nothing like TNG and is all about bashing the fash trump and British trump... sooooo

We watch half of S1 for the nostalgia feels, 7of9 tits that wont be there and Riker being an awesome old disgruntled man... we end up hating Picard.. show sucks whenever there is not an old character in it, we end up then not liking any of the new characters and are pissed at the SJW-ing of Picard and trudge through s1 and cancel our subs/remove it from our torrent hunters.

Great, looking forward to it.

Don't forget space-Legolas.

Cybsled said:

Only for this forum, because the people bitching about it have selective blindness on past entertainment lol

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It's kind of funny remembering how progressive TNG was. It had openly gay couples running around the ship in the 80s. Roddenberry was a truly huge prog lefty, which is why he made the Federation Socialist Utopia, and the only reason it was that way was because there were literally unlimited energy and resources so go nuts.

I dunno, wonder if there is a difference between TNG depicting subtle social progressivism in a post-scarcity future like the gays on a spaceship in the background and a show with a main actor speaking out in our current time about how elected leaders are new versions of Hitler that might destroy the world because ummm because there're mean or something.

Here's a thought experiment: how would TNG have fared had Patrick Stewart had done interviews saying how the show was intended to send a political and social message to viewers and if you aren't getting it then fuck off because you're a loser if you don't support gay marriage and should be cited for hate.

The problem is writers are so shit these days they can't embed any messages of morality or social politics in an otherwise good story. It's just non-stop "got you good fucker" level of Farva agenda pushing in everything and it's bolstered by actors who have been propped up to believe they're more important than the story or entertainment value of viewers.

Yeah, great stories can change people and society for the better, but not when these self-fellating shit suckers thinking the way to do that is with terrible, hamfisted writing and calling the viewer a right wing nazi asshole if they even question why we can't at least get the good writing with the force feed agenda.

Entertainers need to at least start with a basic level of entertainment, and them opening their preachy mouths for anything other than their lines and creepy producers isn't helping them entertain, nor is it helping deliver any positive social changes like good entertainment can deliver.

You guys might have missed a line from that article, he wasn't just bashing space Trump and space brexit. He is bashing the federation system for allowing space Trump and space brexit to ever happen. The system which the entire tng show revolved. That's bad now too and Picard has to point it all out.

Lanx said:

please don't suck like all of the TNG movies

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Buckle up, buckaroo.

DS9 handled section 31 very well- because it toed the line of "You guys are bad!" and "For us to continue living this 'perfect' world, we need you guys doing your thing."

Discovery obviously ham fisted section 31 into a vehicle to just let them do whatever they want and to explain the difference in tone and other story issues from TOS and Discovery as they are practically on top of each other in timeline.

So obviously S31 is going to be in Picard, it most likely will be the "reason" why the grand glorious federation has fallen to such sad straights.

Sometimes the writers know the characters better than the actors who play them... sometimes the actors know the character better than the writers whom guide them...

I think in this case, Picard does not know Picard... and the writers do not know picard and they are all on the same bad page with big smiles and grins "This will stop Trump!"

Lanx said:

please don't suck like all of the TNG movies

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As much as I like Stewart's past work, he's part of why the movies suck. Pile on the all the wokeness of current year and I'll bet it's awful.

I found a sneak peak of the character they based on trump.

In DS9 this guy was the Federation President



and he didn't take the changeling threat seriously at all. Section 31 had already infiltrated his cabinet and the militant wingers in Starfleet tried to take over Earth during that time period too (Homefront + Paradise Lost).

Or in other words if fans are expecting TNG, they're way off.

But how do you really feel?