The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Gaige

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Ya citing sales figures is kind of silly. Isn't Madden the best selling videogame every single year? I'm sure Sean hates Madden.
 
Sean , you are like a rabid fan. Why does it irk you that someone just doesnt want that shitty ass ps4.....it happens man people like different things. Like for example , I hate anime garbage....you on the other hand sleep with pillows with anime characters on it. Different strokes for different folks.Am i gonna shit on your pillows , just because i hate anime and say your a wierd dude for liking that shit. Of course not , i could care less if you enjoy that it.Man take it easy man , you wont get any royalaties or kick backs for someone buying a ps4. Sheesh.....fanbois.
 

Sean_sl

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Mainly because every family in America with a kid under the age of 12 had a Wii. WiiU won't come close to the original Wii sales numbers.

Sales != better game. Shitloads more people bought Wii Fit than bought Dark Souls, does that mean it's a vastly better game?
Well, I'd also disagree that Halo and Froza are better than any of the big Nintendo franchises. I like Halo, but it's no Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, etc.
 

Gaige

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Wow, does it hurt for you to be so wrong all the time?
Wrong?

I just admitted that I play Madden, Forza, Gears of War and Halo with my Xbox buddies online. That I don't care about niche Japanese indie games or any of that shit. That I actually like Kinect.

You think I'm in the minority? C'mon Sean.
 

Cantatus

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For all the talk of "future proofing" and the belief that "most customers wouldn't care," they previously seemed determined to just go ahead with these changes as they figured it was a vocal minority doing the complaining. The numbers must've said otherwise, because that's really the only way I can see Microsoft reversing their policies.

I do wonder how much this changes things though. It wasn't just Microsoft's policies that hurt them, but both their arrogance and contradictory answers. This is certainly a step in the right direction, but I think they're going to have to work hard in the next few months to regain people's trust.

It's actually impossible for them to remove Kinect requirement. The Xbox One doesn't have a physical on/off button. You HAVE to speak to it for it to turn on. So, if nothing else, you're still stuck with Kinect for that reason.
They have said the Xbox One has a power button on the front.

Honestly, they seem pretty vindictive tbh. For what reason is there any connection between not having a 24 hour DRM check, and the inability of Microsoft to provide the owners of their console the 10 person shared games section they were already talking about. Why take that away?

Because they mad. Oh yes Microsoft super mad.
I'm guessing it's because, without the check, there's no way for them to determine whether one of your friends is borrowing your games or not. I don't know why they couldn't have come up with some sort of compromise. Despite all the crap Microsoft had come up with, this was probably their best new feature. So it's basically, "Hey, we got rid of some of those things you were complaining about, but we also got rid of the thing you were excited about!" making it somewhat of a wash.
 

Nola

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Still not buying one. It's $100.00 more and has the fucking kinect which I have zero desire to have or use.
 

Sean_sl

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Wrong?

I just admitted that I play Madden, Forza, Gears of War and Halo with my Xbox buddies online. That I don't care about niche Japanese indie games or any of that shit. That I actually like Kinect.

You think I'm in the minority? C'mon Sean.
Considering the pre-order numbers and past history of consoles? Yes, you are the minority in liking the Xbone. People change consoles when new generation comes and loyalty means dick all - it's happened over and over. You are by far in the minority of people backing a console this coming generation.
 

Vaclav

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I'm sure Driveclub and Forza won't compare in any shape or form to each other... to me as a non-racing buff I honestly couldn't tell the difference. (I do like racing games to screw around with a little, just they don't particularly pump my nads since the original Gran Turismo - its really cool that PS4 is getting Driveclub as a day one PS+ title as a result for me)
 

Chanur

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What if all your friends have Xbox One?
Friends or accomplices?

This didn't really change much for me. They have been talking shit for weeks now. If you don't like the taste of our DRM cock down your throat buy a 360! Hero derp. I'm not interested in rewarding someone that tried to fuck me over. You faggots with the abused wife syndrome can though. This did however change me from to absolutely not to probably not years down the road.
 

Abefroman

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Gaige being in this discussion now totally fucking undermines any fucking argument I might have defending Xbone now. Fuck.

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Juvarisx

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I am not sure it has a power buttons in all countries, but in Germany you have to be able to turn the kinect off due to privacy laws so they are for sure getting one.
 

Joeboo

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Still not buying one. It's $100.00 more and has the fucking kinect which I have zero desire to have or use.
That's basically my assessment.

Looks like this generation is probably going to shake out as the PS4 as the obviously dominant system, with the XBone in a distant 2nd place, and WiiU as a total afterthought other than the 1 week out of the year when maybe a new Zelda or Mario game comes out.

Nintendo needs to suck it up and stop selling consoles. Stick to portables(which they are great at) and then just be a software company for consoles. I'd almost guarantee that the money they would make off of having Mario/Zelda/Metroid selling on PS4 and XBone would be greater than the money they would make selling those games on WiiU + the new sales of WiiU consoles to people who want to play those games. WiiU is doing so poorly, new entries in those big franchises are going to be lucky to sell 20% of what they did on the Wii.

At this point, the only thing that would make WiiU any sort of a contender for this generation would be a legitimate Pokemon game for it. Kids STILL love Pokemon, I don't get it but it doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.
 

Vaclav

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The recent past history shows the Xbox 360 dominating by a large margin and the titles I mentioned selling retarded amounts of copies.
It's a good thing we're talking about the Xbox One and not the Xbox 360, isn't it? After all based on your reasoning Xbox 360 must've lost this past generation hard because PS2 completely dominated the market - it treated the rest of the industry like a red-headed stepchild named Gaige.
 

Sean_sl

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The recent past history shows the Xbox 360 dominating by a large margin and the titles I mentioned selling retarded amounts of copies.
Except, the X360 never dominated by a large margin. The PS3 caught up in hardware and they're about dead even, though the PS3 is usually slightly ahead.

The only thing the X360 ever dominated in was Call of Duty sales. Other franchises are all a lot closer.

It's also totally irrelevant, because console generations completely change things and success is never guaranteed. The PS2 is a system that actually dominated, unlike the X360, and look what happened.
 

Gaige

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It's a good thing we're talking about the Xbox One and not the Xbox 360, isn't it? After all based on your reasoning Xbox 360 must've lost this past generation hard because PS2 completely dominated the market - it treated the rest of the industry like a red-headed stepchild named Gaige.
I'm just saying completely dismissing recent history because of changes that didn't even make it to release seems kind of silly.

The main factors against Xbox One are the hardware, which time and again devs have shown to either A) develop to the lowest common denominator or B) the differences are so miniscule they're unnoticeable outside of screenshot stills and Kinect which I don't understand the backlash against. I loved using mine for Madden 13.

Except, the X360 never dominated by a large margin.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/...-sales-in-may/

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Sean_sl

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If you can't understand the huge difference in hardware and what it means between the PS4 and Xbone performance (and how scalable engines work!) then you should just leave the games thread and go back to sports (where you're still wrong).

You also clearly don't actually know anything about recent history if you think the X360 "dominated".
 

Vaclav

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E3 is largely there to help build up inertia - they just let PS4 get all the initial inertia as a result.

Additionally, regardless of YOUR feelings about Kinect, many people DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT KINECT or would even prefer not to have it - I don't look forward to playing Dead Rising 3 and having to thrash on my couch to fight off a zombie - it sounds annoying, potentially exhausting, and potentially terrifying for my wife - since I'm personally prone to seizures.

They're starting a 5k race a half hour late with a $100 dead weight tied to their leg. It's not impossible to pull out against those odds, but I don't think odds makers would prefer XBox One in that race. [And this is just covering the delayed "good start" and Kinect - not even going into the hardware differences that may or may not be mitigated - remember they're all x86 based now, so they'll have more time for specific system tweaks in theory....]