The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (2014)

Mudcrush Durtfeet

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Yeah after the previous two hobbit movies I have no desire to see this one. Movies would have been much better as just two movies. Three was just too much, far too much padding added and it shows.
 

etchazz

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Really? Cause I feel like the original movies got progressively worse. I mean they were still good, but Fellowship was definitely the best, and Two Towers was arguably better than Return of the King.
I agree 100%. although I enjoyed all three LOTR movies, the first one was clearly the best of the trilogy (and the fact that it didn't win best picture was a travesty). The only thing I can say that's positive about the Hobbit movies is as disappointing as they've been, they're still way better than the Star Wars prequels, so PJ has that going for him.
 

Rombo

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To each his own. The hobbit was the first book my father gave me when i was a kid with a lill message from him written inside. Its simply the most precious book in my entire collection nowdays. We have this pilgrimage where we always see the Jackson movies together in theater. Started with lotr and now its the hobbit. Now wether i like all of these movies because its a moment i share with my old dude or because the movies are great could be discussed for a while. Sorry for the rambling but my point is, i dont approach these movies has if any changes to them would be like raping my childhood memories. I simply enjoy the moment i share with my dad and appreciate the ride Jackson created for us in a world we both love.

I respect the diehard Tolkien fans but sometimes, you gotta learn to lay back, grab a pop corn and just, you know, enjoy the moment. Plus like someone else said, the more people are exposed to the Tolkien world, the better it is. At the very elast it will make some viewers curious to pick up a book and see what its all about.
 

iannis

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The Rings Trilogy was pretty good. It's hard to say which was "the best". No bombadill... fellowship suffered. Skateboarding legolas + dwarf toss + orc killing competition + elf archers out of nowhere... TTT suffered. I'd almost say Return was the best, but it wasn't really.

They're all good for different reasons and flawed in different ways. The books that they're based on are too, so overall I think PJ did a great job there. With the Hobbit he's just milking it. But you know it's no worse than King Kong or wtfever he did. He's not a travesty of good taste or anything.
 

Lanx

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i didn't read no tolkien books, they just decorate the bookshelf, with that the rings trilogy played out exactly like the original star wars trilogy.
1. enlightened/wow something new
2. wow a dark turn, best in the series
3. eh... trying to wrap up loose ends, throw in fighting porn in lieu of a better film

i mean really, the hobbits were ewoks that could talk, everyone of them were annoying, really wished they'd die or just hurry along.

the hobbit 1 and 2, were stupid, they were so long and boring. and wtf, i couldn't tell one dwarf from another except the king dwarf. story is horrible too, you'd think by now after saving their lives countless times, these low intelligence dwarfs and their stupid king would actually care about bilbo, nope their racism won't allow it, fuck him, it's the only way to move this horrible story along is for bilbo to be the ultimate underdog with a stupid ring that kinda makes him invis.

otherwise you could kill 5 dwarfs and i wouldn't notice a difference, or care, fuck these dwarfs, what a waste of time.
 

Chukzombi

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the worst parts of RoTK was how they fucked up saruman's subplot and the fact the movie didnt know when to fucking end, there are like 5 endings in it. still a great movie though.

the hobbit should probably have been just 2 movies. "people will be like, uh why did smaug die so early and whats all this buildup to a big battle that has no consequence later in the LOTR movies? bring back smaug!" i will give the third part a looksee. trailer was ok. the second movie was passable, but the smaug scenes were pretty awesome. as someone said, i look forward to the fan edits. i bet you can easily encapsulate all the important story stuff from all 3 movies into a single 3 hour film.
 

Chris

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Let's take the most epic plot twist with Frodo's "death" to Shelob at the end of TTT, and put it half way through RotK so it is resolved immediatly.
 

Caliane

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The visuals for the ghost army really took me out of RoTK. ruined it for me. It looked so shitty.
 

Runnen

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Well, I see his point about the ghost army. I imagined they would look badass and sort of scary, but to be honest when you see them in the background mowing down oliphaunts by just climbing onto them like a huge green bubbling flubber, I think the only thing lacking is the Benny Hill theme.

Still a great movie though.
 

iannis

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I saw a little piece of RoTK the other day. It surprised me that the visual effects have aged as much as they have.
 

Chris

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The visuals for the ghost army really took me out of RoTK. ruined it for me. It looked so shitty.
I really hated them autowinning the entire battle like a deus ex machina, in the book they just take out the black fleet.
 

j00t

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I compare the direction of the hobbit movies to the differences in dining culture. You could either go to a michilin star restaurant and get a 5oz steak with a small serving of Zucchini fries that tastes like perfection or you can go to your run of the mill steak joint and get a 17 oz sirloin with a giant baked potato and some broccoli that tastes fine.

Sure, they both are good but any rational person is going to choose the first one based on taste alone. But a lot of people are totally fine eating at the place with less quality because there's more of it.
 

Gavinmad

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I compare the direction of the hobbit movies to the differences in dining culture. You could either go to a michilin star restaurant and get a 5oz steak with a small serving of Zucchini fries that tastes like perfection or you can go to your run of the mill steak joint and get a 17 oz sirloin with a giant baked potato and some broccoli that tastes fine.

Sure, they both are good but any rational person is going to choose the first one based on taste alone. But a lot of people are totally fine eating at the place with less quality because there's more of it.
That analogy is stupider than a duck and water and something.
 

Mur_sl

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Meh, I'll go see it just for the Dwarves riding goats...and the $10 popcorn.

I think greed overcame Jackson here; the Hobbit should have been asingle3 hour masterpiece. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

Gavinmad

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Well, two movies would have been fine, they wouldn't have really had to stretch it much at all. Three movies out of a single book smaller than any part of the LOTR trilogy is fucking ridiculous.
 

Araxen

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I didn't see the second one in the theater and I won't be seeing this one there either. I'll wait to Redbox it. This book should have never been made into 3 movies.