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Khane said:
Is it a trend where you guys live for younger drivers (from permit to mid-late 20s) to refuse to turn right on red?

It is here and its big time Khane rustler. They just... won't turn right on red, ever.
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I have 2 guesses. #1 is that red lights are their phone time and they're not giving that shit up no matter how loud you honk.

#2 is that maybe there is a sign there that they see and you missed or forgot about. I recall an intersection when I was young that had no right on red signs and the adults all gave me shit about not turning. Then I showed them the sign and they were like "Well that's fucking stupid ...." Both my parents, my sister's husband, and a friend of his who was a cop all missed the sign and tried to give me shit.

But speaking of right on red, I might have used this one before. If there are 2 right turn lanes, only the rightmost lane can go right on red. I have this setup near my house and it pisses me off when the person in the leftmost turn lane goes right on red because I'm usually trying to cut across to the left lane on the service road ASAP. I avoid that inside turn lane because I know it isn't allowed to turn right on red.
 
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lurker said:
When I drove a school bus we were not allowed to turn right on red. Used to piss off a lot of folks stacked up behind me. Loved it.
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Why would you love pissing off folks that are just trying to get to work or get home or get wherever?
 
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Hoss said:
But speaking of right on red, I might have used this one before. If there are 2 right turn lanes, only the rightmost lane can go right on red. I have this setup near my house and it pisses me off when the person in the leftmost turn lane goes right on red because I'm usually trying to cut across to the left lane on the service road ASAP. I avoid that inside turn lane because I know it isn't allowed to turn right on red.
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Maybe it is different in your state, but that's not true in general. Unless the outer lane specifically says you can't turn right, both lanes can turn. I do it all the time coming back to work from McDonald's, even when cops are around.

Dual right-turn lanes and channelized islands​

With two right-turn lanes, both drivers must stop fully and choose the correct lane on entry. Stay in your lane through the turn; late merges across lanes cause sideswipe crashes and right-of-way confusion. Channelized right-turn islands may have their own signal: a steady red at the island requires the same complete stop and yield.
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I turn right on red when its allowed, I feel the need to say this up front to minimize a particular response.

With that said:
1. You "may" turn right on red in some circumstances. You are not obligated to, and in fact, are not allowed to until you've confirmed its safe to turn. So a person who hasnt turned right yet, is legally 100% within their rights.
2. There are red lights you aren't allowed to turn red on. So a person who hasnt turned right yet may be in the process of verifying that its allowed at this particular light. Or arguing with their backseat driver over the question.
3. Meanwhile, by the time you've given the driver a reasonable grace period to figure out if its allowed, the lights green and the problem is resolved on its own.


The #1 cause of nearly all traffic accidents: people getting impatient cause they don't like what the person in front of them is doing. "I may be delayed by 2.3 seconds on my super important drive!!! Unacceptable, fuck you all!"
 
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