World of Warcraft: Classic

Some EU dev confirmed recently that layers will be per-continent and will each have roughly the same max pop as original vanilla servers (which was around 3k). Beta had greatly reduced layer populations specifically so Bliz could test various layer mechanics that wouldn’t have been possible normally since fewer than 3k people were logged in.

One of the changes Bliz implemented near the end of beta was to add a scaling cooldown on switching layers, to prevent people layer-hopping constantly for chests, black lotus, devilsaurs, etc.

If that’s how things will be for launch, I can imagine tryhard people getting to level 8 or whatever in the first layer and then having friends/guildies make a new character to invite them which would pop them into a newer layer and effectively give them an hour head start over everybody else rather than competing with the hundreds of other similarly leveled people in the first layer.

I look forward to seeing just how hard people are able to game the system.

I’m hoping for some fun bugs in the higher level zones that nobody tested. Some private servers had things like being able to spam click an outhouse in plaguelands to spawn dozens of copies of a quest npc and then AOEing them all down to get 55-60 in an hour, shit like that.

Korzax Stonehammer said:

Playing for 24 hours straight is the new norm, not something a only a few people do

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I think you greatly overestimate how many people can live off streaming WoW 24h a day. Even if it's a hundred, which I think is an absurdly high estimate, that's far from enough to even have a noticeable impact on your regular gameplay experience.

Vepil said:

Watching beta videos of people on classic when they cross the layer/phase line getting dropped from griffon rides are funny. I fully expect this to not be resolved for release.

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That's exactly what would happen back in Vanguard when you zoned. Well they didn't call it zoning because there weren't "zones" so to speak, but the whole world was technically cut up in to huge square chunks. When you would cross one of the chunk lines, you would technically zone. If you was on a flying mount, it would dismount you, and you would fall to your death.

So, there you go. WoW development has officially gotten as bad as Vanguard. That's a hell of an accomplishment right there.

We know there is going to be a massive rush to play and a massive rush to 60. We know it will be absurdly lopsided towards people rushing vs original wow launch. We know the servers are gonna feel it somewhere or somehow, blizzard is never perfect on this stuff.

There will probably be a few people who manage to take the very top lead and hold it. They hit the fotm quests first and they outpace any scrubs in a dungeon. How many people doing this solo on a main leveling path before the ones behind hit bottlenecks and are stifled? How many different paths are there, and how many different copies of the zones? In practice I struggle to imagine more than a couple dozen people out of thousands pull off the solo quest speedrun without SERIOUS hurdles. In contrast, the dungeon crawl is predictable and stable. No roadblocks. Leveling this way you will never be undergeared and never be sitting bored.

In eq the level strats balanced mob density vs zone experience modifier and/or mob level. Density aka just massacring shit was always better. Wow is going to shit all over eq in term of attendance, and in terms of crowding. Xp quality unless you manage to be THE GUY at the VERY top is going to be inferior to xp quantity. Hit up instances and grind for the win.

Vepil said:

I cannot believe I actually forgot about that happening in Vanguard, but yeah it would. The better one was on your mount and when you chunked and fell through the world. lol

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I had a bag full of bonus experience potions that were given out to compensate for all the deaths.

mkopec said:

Best bet, and this might be unpopular one, is probably waiting a good few days and then starting.

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Yeah right. I'm already annoyed it's not even August yet.

I feel they made a mistake with how and when they're releasing this. I know for me I was hyped for a few days then immediately disgusted with myself. I can only imagine there are others like me

dunno, still hyped

I told you people to not burn yourselves out with inferior products.

I mean the burnout could def be a thing if you went hard or whatever, i jumped on a private server just to get used to the controls and stuff again and get some muscle memory back while trying to remember some of the lowbie quests / dungeons for a bit of efficiency at launch. Had fun got to mid 30s and then quit playing more or less a few weeks back now just waiting for the real thing and getting hyped again.