Casual Rerolled WoW guild - Hyjal Horde

A little post-mortem of today.

The good - we killed H Kargath, got some 670 gear for a lot of folks. We got through Ko'ragh in around 2 hours total - most fights didn't require an explanation and we only died to Ko'ragh (the other tank didn't know what he was doing). I fucked up the adds a bit, I'm not really good at that stage but I'll get better at it. 6/7N, 1/7H in a few weeks isn't bad - plus we weren't getting carried by Krassus' tanking

The bad - We had to wait a bit for a bunch of people to logon and join the raid, also we had like 1 or 2 healers so we had to pug the rest. Can't really help it if no one wants to heal, but if there is someone out there that wants to spec healing you basically have a guaranteed spot in the raid. We also only had me as a tank and the pug one was just ok, he was confused on every boss even though he said he had done them. Poid said he'd step up as tank, so I'm cool with that unless someone is really dying to do it (Poid does good dps!). A lot of people still using the inn items... +100 stat when greater flask is 250 or whatever (375 for stamina). If a_skeleton_03 makes me a officer this week I can start bringing flasks for everyone, I'd prefer we all used it.

Couple questions for those that come:

1. Is personal loot working? I ask because I'm curious if anyone thinks ML would suit us better in terms of progression.

2. What progression path do we want to take starting next week? Do we want to put in legitimate attempts on Imp or move on to other Heroic bosses? I think a lot of the veterans don't want to work on imp for hours, which is understandable, but I'll leave it up to you guys.

Thanks for coming, hope everyone enjoyed it.

Also I seem to get a million tells while im raiding so if I miss yours just yell at me on mumble.

Soygen_sl said:

Sorry for the quick exit, but I was waiting on a delivery and have a lot going on this morning. I was too distracted to stick around.

I think that personal loot is fine, as far as the normal clears. Maybe when we're doing full Heroic runs, it might be better to do master and maybe reserve items for people, etc.

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Yeah I think for the numbers we generally pull and the fact normal clears is usually for "I have 630 gear and need everything" personal works. But if we want to advance further when we hit Heroic we need to start reserving items for our regular tanks and healers.

Personal is good until you have a bunch of people who really don't need anything, or if you bring in ringers who've already cleared the place that week.

As for Imp, best thing to do imo is see how Ko'ragh goes. If the Ko'ragh kill is even a little shaky then Imp is probably going to be a nightmare.

Vorph_sl said:

Personal is good until you have a bunch of people who really don't need anything, or if you bring in ringers who've already cleared the place that week.

As for Imp, best thing to do imo is see how Ko'ragh goes. If the Ko'ragh kill is even a little shaky then Imp is probably going to be a nightmare.

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Yeah I mean I'm mostly asking for everyone else. I'm at 652, so I'm not gear starved or anything.

Our Koragh was a little shaky today, but I think if we have another tank that is pretty consistent and some healers we'll have no problem with him.

Nice, I wouldn't switch classes unless it's something you truly want to do. I'd prefer people play their main choice - it's not like we're in Mythic. And once we hit heroics we'll be getting up to 670!

Do we have a semi-scheduled heroic run for the guild? Is that the Tuesday night?

I put up our next week's raid. Same thing as this week but after Koragh I'm going to ask people to leave that don't want to do attempts and form up with those that do. I had shit to do this week,but next week I want us to try him.

Tenks_sl said:

Do we have a semi-scheduled heroic run for the guild? Is that the Tuesday night?

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Tues. is the heroic farm for Hist's Sunday mythic group that has a fairly static roster, quite a bit of reserved loot, etc. Hist did say that people with the gear and skill for mythic should talk to him about coming, but I don't think he's adding anyone just for heroic.

If the guild has enough ~ilvl650 people who want to try to do heroic on a weekly basis we should try to get an idea of what night(s) will work. I go with Hist & co. on my DK, but my hunter is geared enough for heroic now that I finally got a bow today, and I can make pretty much any night. Sun/Tues would be a bad idea because of the other group already running, and Wed should probably stay normal HM because there's people who still need that gear too.

What the fuck is it with people doing progression with sub-par consumables/gems/enchants? Just apathy?

Eidal_sl said:

What the fuck is it with people doing progression with sub-par consumables/gems/enchants? Just apathy?

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in before "it's a casual guild"

My hunter hasn't settled down enough in gear yet to start saving the big money sinks into gems yet. I have a JC toon working on getting recipes and doing daily combines, but until I have full on 570+ I can't justify dropping 4k per slot for an extra 15 crit or MS from the AH. My enchanter has a shitload of crystals, though, so my enchants should be done unless I've forgotten I upgraded something. After today's failure of Brack to give me a bow I am biting the bullet and just upgrading a crafted crit/ms gun to 660. Need 11 more gears, but it will be done in the morning. That will also put my hunter at 657 with only 2 slots left that need an upgrade from normals. I have a 640+ mage and other toons in the wings, though if it gets to that point. I am a serial altoholic. Have been since vanilla.

The cheap gems are like 20g per if that. The cheap enchants except weapon are super cheap too. I'm not spending thousands of gold on enchants and gems for 630 gear but I am buying the cheap shit

Okay, I do understand not dropping 15k on a full set of enchants if your guild is all about tinkering through Normal at a snails pace. But "cheap" gems/enchants are VERY cheap, and so are consumables... yet I join fucking heroic imperator groups and half the raid is missing flask and do not pre-pot.

Man, thinking about a balance druid alt because the rotation with the time cycle sounds fun, but fuck I don't know if I could always stand being a weird bear thing.

Amycus_sl said:

Man, thinking about a balance druid alt because the rotation with the time cycle sounds fun, but fuck I don't know if I could always stand being a weird bear thing.

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Glyph of Stars

Unfortunately, Stars was cool before WoD but it sucks now, since you have to pick between it andGlyph of the Flapping Owlwhich is a no-brainer. Though if all you do is raid, it's not like slow fall is ever really needed.