The new way to do it is give your 24-26 year olds 6-8 year contracts on a discount and never let them reach FA. That requires having a farm system that actually produces talent though.
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I guess we'll see what else the Mariners do. I'm still really surprised that Jay-Z let Cano leave a major East Coast city.
The rumored deal they're trying to put together that would send Taijuan Walker PLUS to Tampa for David Price has the potential to be even more of a disaster! At least all they're giving Cano is money.
The rumored deal they're trying to put together that would send Taijuan Walker PLUS to Tampa for David Price has the potential to be even more of a disaster! At least all they're giving Cano is money.
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No. Price is very good but there's a pretty decent chance that Walker will be better in a few years. He's cheap and under team control for I think 4 more years, whereas even an extension for Price would be paying close to market rate for those wins.
Add to all of this that the main target to fix the team's total lack of talent in the outfield still seems to be Nelson Cruz, and we're in for a long few years as Mariners fans.
Add to all of this that the main target to fix the team's total lack of talent in the outfield still seems to be Nelson Cruz, and we're in for a long few years as Mariners fans.
The good news is, for the first 3-4 years of the contract the Mariners will probably get pretty good surplus value. The going rate for wins seems to have climbed to about $6.5m per win, and the Mariners will be paying about $5m per win. Cano's not a player that should age TERRIBLY, so it probably won't become a true albatross until about year 7.
On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is a great deal and a 10 is a franchise crippling disaster, this is about an 8.
On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is a great deal and a 10 is a franchise crippling disaster, this is about an 8.
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I can't blame the Mariners in this case. Is it a bad contract, sure. As has been pointed out in this thread though the organization has not been able to draw this sort of talent there for years. They had to start somewhere, and perhaps this will open the door to attract better players in the future.
Cano is never injured, and is probably the most consistent hitter you will find the past 5 years. Plays stellar D as well. He will piss off a bunch of fans though as he never runs out ground balls, and at times gets to flashy in the field and takes bad errors. Mariners had money to burn here is the bottom line. It will get them probably 5-6 good years out of him.
Cano is never injured, and is probably the most consistent hitter you will find the past 5 years. Plays stellar D as well. He will piss off a bunch of fans though as he never runs out ground balls, and at times gets to flashy in the field and takes bad errors. Mariners had money to burn here is the bottom line. It will get them probably 5-6 good years out of him.
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Called it, there was no way the Yanks were going 10 years, they basically swore they were never going to get into an A-Rod type contract again. Ellsbury is a long contract, but it's not long enough where he's basically untradeable for 7 years. I don't blame Cano for taking the money, but you wonder at what cost. He is banished from not only the east coast but the biggest media market to a town where the big name is the Seahawks, not the Mariners.
O's just gave up one of their most likable OF options to the Nationals, Nate McClouth. He petered off at the end with his .avg, but still led the club in stolen bases from what I remember, by a long shot. If he wasn't a bench player he'd be a contender for the league in stolen bases, which he did at one point around stolen base 20 or so. After checking, he actually led the team with 30 with the second being Adam Jones with 14. Also led the team with triples. O's gave up their speed and a decent leadoff hitter.
In the same day they also managed to lose their ONLY pitcher to pitch a complete game this year, Scott Feldman, to the Astros for 3yr/30m, ugh. Oriole's starting rotation was to say the least, sub par last year, but Feldman at least gave it some hope when they acquired him.
This off season is seriously a god damn rollercoaster of emotions. Tons of rumors still popping up and after seeing this,Mariners rumors: M's now in on Bartolo Colon, Mike Napoli, Shin-Soo Choo, more trades coming - Lookout Landing, the Mariner's trying to become the 2013 Blue Jays? Not going to lie, I'd love to see Felix get a ring.
Fuck, the Orioles better make some moves.
In the same day they also managed to lose their ONLY pitcher to pitch a complete game this year, Scott Feldman, to the Astros for 3yr/30m, ugh. Oriole's starting rotation was to say the least, sub par last year, but Feldman at least gave it some hope when they acquired him.
This off season is seriously a god damn rollercoaster of emotions. Tons of rumors still popping up and after seeing this,Mariners rumors: M's now in on Bartolo Colon, Mike Napoli, Shin-Soo Choo, more trades coming - Lookout Landing, the Mariner's trying to become the 2013 Blue Jays? Not going to lie, I'd love to see Felix get a ring.
Fuck, the Orioles better make some moves.
Eh. The Mariners are only not a name because the team has been bad for so long. Games were sold out like crazy during the 2001 run. There's a substantial fanbase here that wants to support a winning baseball team.
Just as an edit: Lookout Landing, these days, should be basically ignored. It's a whole new set of people running it and they don't have any connections at all.
Just as an edit: Lookout Landing, these days, should be basically ignored. It's a whole new set of people running it and they don't have any connections at all.
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Napoli back to Boston on a 2 year deal. Hope his hip makes it that long.
http://nesn.com/2013/12/report-mike-...two-year-deal/
Beltran to Yankees. Which bring the total outfielders on the team to 57.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/stor...5-million-deal
http://nesn.com/2013/12/report-mike-...two-year-deal/
Beltran to Yankees. Which bring the total outfielders on the team to 57.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/stor...5-million-deal
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Dysfunction at the top: Eric Wedge, others point to trouble in Mariners front office | Mariners | The Seattle Times
I knew about some of this, but not all of it.
The quotes from Tony Blengino are particularly damning. He's goddamn brilliant, and it sounds like Jack couldn't handle having someone in the room way smarter than him.
I knew about some of this, but not all of it.
The quotes from Tony Blengino are particularly damning. He's goddamn brilliant, and it sounds like Jack couldn't handle having someone in the room way smarter than him.
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Just wow. I moved out to NE Virginia 3 years ago... I should probably just give up on the Ms and find another team. God damn is that team mismanaged badly