Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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Quaid
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Fucking A m8
All the MNM boyz is on the Government cheese
Now Sylas the hater is also on the Government payroll!
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earlier they accused us of working for pantheon and here just to sabotage their latest in a long line of failed wannabe eq clones.Fucking A m8
All the MNM boyz is on the Government cheese
Now Sylas the hater is also on the Government payroll!
All i've ever said is not launching on steam = vaporware, scam, or intentionally ultra niche market, like expect 500 players. Every design decision they make seems to confirm they only want 500 players. Then the dev came out with a video stating they didn't wanna release on steam because they want to limit the game to ultra niche market they dont want anyone to even see it.
ya'll accuse me of shitting all over the game. I have not. I get it, you autists get us mixed up all the time. I do to, I think every single one of you faggots is Mr. Sox.
for the record, I have no problem with many of the design choices, I played EQ, Vanguard, pantheon pre-steam, hell I even played Ember's Adrift (which is the closest game to MNM by far). I just recognize this style of game will have a miniscule population, and the only way to do anything about that is to release it to all PC gamers (IE steam) and hope to pick up new blood instead of just a handful of 50+ year old retired eq players living on disability.
not releasing on steam is a huge red flag, it screams scam. The dev stated they aren't releasing on steam because they dont care to or expect to ever make any money with this and its just a passion project. I respect that, but you guys are deluding yourselves thinking its going to carry some thousands or tens of thousands of subs. It's going to be ember's adrift, sell maybe a few k boxes and have 50-200 peak concurrent users. I mean it'll work out eventually once they merge down to a single server, just take a bit of coordination to find other players to do anything, expect to box.
Enjoy, have fun, but you should definitely roll on the bot server even if you despise boxing because the nobox server will be a graveyard within a month and you'll have trouble progressing in group content.
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moonarchia
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Nothing that is posted on random MMO boards gets looked at, but for the project's home forums/discord? That may or may not get looked at.
We can sperg out all day and night here, and fuck all is going to come of it. If you feel super duper stronk about something, post it where the devs are. Otherwise, enjoy geeking out with your fellow autists here at FOH. We are assholes, but that's the fun part.
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Quaid
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My 3 step plan to solve group formation friction:
1. give all classes the ability to gate (hearthstones - 8h cooldown)
2. give more classes Call of the Hero (wiz & spellblade? No major utility class)
3. make COTH work across zone-lines, but cost an enormous amount of mana
Done. Rain your negs upon me.
1. give all classes the ability to gate (hearthstones - 8h cooldown)
2. give more classes Call of the Hero (wiz & spellblade? No major utility class)
3. make COTH work across zone-lines, but cost an enormous amount of mana
Done. Rain your negs upon me.
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Flobee
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Honestly I don't hate this entirely if it was tweaked a bit. Make COTH a consumable instead that isn't cheap, or at least price scales with level or something. Would be a good plat sink. Need a way to make that cross zone summon not completely trivialize travel and ports though if you were to go this route. I'd probably drop #3 but keep 1 and 2 with the consumable angle over int casters. Not sure its a good idea, but would help that particular problem.
Quaid
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I edited that post a bit - but you could make COTH a percentage based mana cost, so it’s 90% of your mana every time you cast it. Having to med for 15 minutes between COTH casts would be awful, and deter abuse of The system. It’d be no more a travel avoidance system than porting a full group across the world instantaneously is.
i do like the consumable angle, but id consider leveraging this system to bolster the group desirability of low-utility ‘magic’ classes (ele, wiz, spellblade)
Changing your hearthstone point should be an NPC in starting cities ONLY who sells the service for plat, and it should be pricey. Amazing plat sink. Also the Gate spell should still exist, and yes casters should get two ‘bind points’ on different systems (bind affinity + gate, vs hearth point).
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Kirun
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Not only should you expand COTH to a few classes, but then I'd like to see a few other classes get an ability to summon themselves TO a group.
So, COTH would pull somebody to you, this new spell/ability would pull yourself to somebody else. You could do it in a way where some caster classes get COTH and some martial classes get this new ability - just tie it to a long cooldown. Maybe an hour+ or so.
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A suggestion is better than their older posts but I absolutely love that in their minds the solution to save the game from failing is to add a spell from classic EverQuest to all classes and an item from classic wow. As if that would ever be the make or break for a game to succeed. lol what is going on here.
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Quaid
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Ya for me a couple small changes like this to group formation dynamics, and some raid zone instancing, and the game is a near perfect 'old school' MMO experience with just a couple modern era QOL additions. They already have a LFG tool, but I'd consider a basic Auction/bazaar tool as well. I'm surprised no EC tunnel equivalent has really popped up yet. Makes me wonder if it ever will. Might be because they have some plans for trade stalls which are in cities and people are holding out? I’m not connected enough to know how these will work - if they’re like offline traders or what. Hopefully it’s offline.
I'd also ask for a global chat if that doesn't exist already - haven't logged in for months.
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Kirun
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Yup. Nobody is asking MnM to reinvent the wheel here, just to sand off the sharpest, most self-sabotaging edges so the "old-school MMO" experience actually survives contact with a 2025 playerbase.
A handful of small systemic changes would go a long way toward making grouping, world activity, and player interaction actually function on a niche-but-alive scale. None of which would destroy the soul of an EQ-style MMO. People forget that EQ itself was constantly modernizing. Bazaar? Instancing? Maps? Bandolier? Linking items in chat? They added all of that once reality set in. "Classic" EQ only exists in the imagination of people who forgot how many patches it took to make the game actually playable.
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Hekotat
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Quaid
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TJT
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OG WoW Warlock Ritual of Summoning is one of the best MMO abilities ever designed. If a new MMO steals any one thing it should steal that. A social game has a class ability that helps you play together with other people because groups are a driving factor of the game.
Not game breaking, not immersion breaking (actually the opposite).
Not game breaking, not immersion breaking (actually the opposite).
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Pharone
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I don't see an issue with any of that. Would be nice.
I think that a necromancer and/or shadowknight being able to call TO the group. It could be based off of masking themselves with the darkness of death and floating to their group as a mist or something to make it thematically match the class.
That being said, rogues should naturally have a call TO the group, and just base on the fact that they can sneak just about anywhere. The call to group would just make it faster than having to do it yourself.
*edit* one more thing...
I think that Paladin and Cleric could have a special version of COTH that is only usable between a cleric and a paladin and vice versa. Call it something like Call To The Light. The paladin is summoning a fellow healer to their call for help so to speak. Through their faith, they are able to slip through the light to the who is calling them.
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Kithani
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