The Odyssey (2026)

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So this film is just overtly a new front in the culture war. If it does really well we're going to get a thousand articles about how actually the awful shit that was losing companies money makes companies money and we should all just shut up.
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As a glass half full type of guy, let me be counter for a second…

If this does well then it should (super heavy emphasis there), show that if a talented director actually focuses on making a quality movie the DEI hires and everything shouldn’t (see above emphasis) matter. Kind of what has been argued before about no one caring if a tranny is in your movie, but it is when the tranny becomes the point of the movie, etc. Or how no one cares about Ripley or Sarah Connor or other characters that were just good characters and not “strong female hero!”

Unfortunately every piece of evidence here would suggest otherwise since no one can keep their fucking mouth shut and just make a movie anymore. Maybe he did make a good movie and it’ll be a surprise. But all the crap around it will guarantee it’ll be a long time before I give it a shot.
 
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Intrinsic said:
Kind of what has been argued before about no one caring if a tranny is in your movie, but it is when the tranny becomes the point of the movie, etc. Or how no one cares about Ripley or Sarah Connor or other characters that were just good characters and not “strong female hero!”

Unfortunately every piece of evidence here would suggest otherwise since no one can keep their fucking mouth shut and just make a movie anymore. Maybe he did make a good movie and it’ll be a surprise. But all the crap around it will guarantee it’ll be a long time before I give it a shot.
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It has been grating on me that Ripley and Connor are the only two women that ever get mentioned in this debate so I was trying to think of some others that would be good. Rosamund Pike in Hostiles and Gone Girl is that type of female character, albeit diametrically opposite roles, in both of these movies. I would argue that she can elevate average writing to something better, but just doesn't really do that many "guy" movies. Carrie Anne Moss as Trinity is also that way in the Matrix Trilogy, badass but not invincible. Claire Danes in Homeland was a neurotic mess, but it was well written and acted to show her being competent and, at times, almost prescient but also very human. Hell, you could argue that the 3 lead women in Friends were "strong female characters" because they did not cower in fear whenever something went sideways. None of the examples above would you ever think of any of them as acting masculine, but none of the are weak wallflowers and it really seems to make these modern examples stand out as deliberately trying to make women act like a man because the writers/actresses do not understand the difference between strength and aggression/bravado.
 
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OU Ariakas said:
It has been grating on me that Ripley and Connor are the only two women that ever get mentioned in this debate so I was trying to think of some others that would be good. Rosamund Pike in Hostiles and Gone Girl is that type of female character, albeit diametrically opposite roles, in both of these movies. I would argue that she can elevate average writing to something better, but just doesn't really do that many "guy" movies. Carrie Anne Moss as Trinity is also that way in the Matrix Trilogy, badass but not invincible. Claire Danes in Homeland was a neurotic mess, but it was well written and acted to show her being competent and, at times, almost prescient but also very human. Hell, you could argue that the 3 lead women in Friends were "strong female characters" because they did not cower in fear whenever something went sideways. None of the examples above would you ever think of any of them as acting masculine, but none of the are weak wallflowers and it really seems to make these modern examples stand out as deliberately trying to make women act like a man because the writers/actresses do not understand the difference between strength and aggression/bravado.
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Scully in the XFiles and Starbuck in BSG are a couple more off the top of my head. There's lots of decent examples out there.

It's when do you get hit over the head with things like the super duper assassin lady movies where that strong wamen shit starts to get egregiously annoying.
 
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Intrinsic said:
As a glass half full type of guy, let me be counter for a second…

If this does well then it should (super heavy emphasis there), show that if a talented director actually focuses on making a quality movie the DEI hires and everything shouldn’t (see above emphasis) matter. Kind of what has been argued before about no one caring if a tranny is in your movie, but it is when the tranny becomes the point of the movie, etc. Or how no one cares about Ripley or Sarah Connor or other characters that were just good characters and not “strong female hero!”

Unfortunately every piece of evidence here would suggest otherwise since no one can keep their fucking mouth shut and just make a movie anymore. Maybe he did make a good movie and it’ll be a surprise. But all the crap around it will guarantee it’ll be a long time before I give it a shot.
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This is nonsensical, the only way to get where you're going is to back into it. You can't organically end up with a good movie that just happens to have DEI and trannies.

No good creator includes these terrible casting and race-swapping, trannies, etc. decisions. They're mutually exclusive. If a creator is making these shit decisions, it's because they're shitty and will make a shitty product.
 
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