World of Warcraft: Current Year
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I watched some parts of it cause I caught that guy streaming on twitch every now and then and he was 100% of the time playing torghast. He makes parallels to actual rogue-likes and how the torment shit will punish people with bad RNG from being able to tough it out and recover an awful start into a god run(which happens pretty often in that type of game, sometimes the early RNG is complete fucking ass but if you struggle hard enough you can luck out, or you die and restart it's fine). He also mentions how there's already a bunch of powers that make "waiting 10mins for bloodlust" not really a thing because once you have enough powers you're basically already getting bloodlust constantly or it stops mattering anyway.
Overall they're basically fixing a non problem by adding some shit that will annoy people who weren't planning on "exploiting" bloodlust to begin with. A lot of the mechanics are also in general punishing for classes with poor mob to mob sustain so they have to eat between pulls and stuff, but then some shit spawn or burn them so they have to eat again/longer, and it just makes the floors drag on, so that you might actually get bloodlust again naturally anyway.
As a side note, I had to pvp today cause I was tired of using a 410 weapon, and apparently the only reliable way to get a good weapon is pvp. Worked out nicely due to good luck but I really wonder how wow, the casual loving game of old, ended up there. In FFXIV I can just craft a weapon that's good for any current content until I get the savage("mythic" raid although not sure how it actually compare to mythic in difficulty) one or the weekly capped token one after 7 then 4 weeks(2 during the catchup patches inbetween the content patches). In wow, it's all a bunch of RNG levers you pull and hope you get upgrades, unless you're in a guild that can carry you to free loot via mythic+ or dungeons. I guess technically you can buy runs for that but the prices are definitely on a way different scale. Just feels weird to not be able to target much of anything.
Oh and I had to spend 20mins on wowhead to figure out what conquest points are and how to get them exactly, and half the data was outdated. No idea how you're supposed to figure out some of that shit without a website.
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You're supposed to wait for the game to release you fucking mongoloid.
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Khane
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So we agree a timer is a stupid, lazy solution? Cool. Glad you finally caught up
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So you're fine with a change provided it isn't terrible? I'm glad you finally caught up rather than lecturing the world about human nature.
Khane
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Arbitrary
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So is this going to be a thing where you recommend the advice that you should follow?
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While people were talking about what was being done and spitballing I suggested they could tie all the fancy cooldowns recharging to specific events. It was just an idea. You took the position that it doesn't matter if some people are willing to spend seven hours tryharding themselves to the top. So what if they do. I said that if "pause ten minutes, repeat" is regarded as THE strategy than people will do it and hate it and other people not willing to do it will also hate it. That will happen.
The human nature wank, "so you're saying you don't think Torghast should have rewards" and the assigning me the pro timer position that I never took is all you.
The human nature wank, "so you're saying you don't think Torghast should have rewards" and the assigning me the pro timer position that I never took is all you.
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Hell of an MMORPG you guys are arguing over. Nothing says solid design like single man content for a MASSIVE online gaming world. The fact that you stupid faggots are excited about more Diablo 3 greater rift style content is pathetic. It just proves all the talent left this company log ago.
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Daidraco
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I dont know why some of you are so dramatic about this change. The expansion is no where near releasing, but is worth discussion in hopes that Blizzard will actually listen.
You can only get a certain amount of Legendary parts per week in Torghast. It's not implemented yet, only discussed by Ion and has been said time and time again. Secondly, like someone has already pointed out - by the time anyone would get to a point where Heroism would actually be useful to defeat each pack of mobs, you're going to have enough Anima power that you're basically going to have Heroism already.
Point being, I have to agree with Khane. Let people just play the f'n game like they want to play it. The torment debuffs have literally no f'n point except to do what so many have said, put a timer on each level. And again, like someone has already said.. Ffs, can I just play the game at my own f'n pace for once? I am so tired of being rushed on everything that is even remotely interesting to me. (Much less, as they are currently implemented - they are nothing more than a f'n annoyance for the majority of the run.)
You can only get a certain amount of Legendary parts per week in Torghast. It's not implemented yet, only discussed by Ion and has been said time and time again. Secondly, like someone has already pointed out - by the time anyone would get to a point where Heroism would actually be useful to defeat each pack of mobs, you're going to have enough Anima power that you're basically going to have Heroism already.
Point being, I have to agree with Khane. Let people just play the f'n game like they want to play it. The torment debuffs have literally no f'n point except to do what so many have said, put a timer on each level. And again, like someone has already said.. Ffs, can I just play the game at my own f'n pace for once? I am so tired of being rushed on everything that is even remotely interesting to me. (Much less, as they are currently implemented - they are nothing more than a f'n annoyance for the majority of the run.)
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Merrith
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It's amusing this is only from last month
Shadowlands' Torghast won't have a timer to beat, but you will have to outrun the Tarragrue
Maybe they'll listen to feedback, though.
Shadowlands' Torghast won't have a timer to beat, but you will have to outrun the Tarragrue
Maybe they'll listen to feedback, though.
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