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You're really barking up the wrong tree.

lol Bad news, bro. I've been in negative numbers the whole time I've been on RR. I'm not a retard so I care about internet pointz. Also, negging me isn't gonna take back that extra chromosome you've passed on to your kids.

A man dying of thirst in desert will sign up for anything in exchange for a drink of water. It's naive to call arrangements for your own survival (or, under our thoroughly un-capitalist welfare systems, arrangements to avoid economic destruction and misery) voluntary.

If a union had a factory of their own to work in where they didn't have to cut in some silver-spoon dipshit on a share of the product of their labor, exactly what proportion of the product of their labor would they voluntarily give over to him? The fact that people kinda sorta have an option of...

A society that isn't built upon exploitation.

You're conflating capital with all other types of property in a way that socialists don't really agree with:An Anarchist FAQ - B.3 Why are anarchists against private property? | Infoshop.org

I'm not sure that Dumar actually disagrees. There is a question about what genuinely constitutes "your" property under the scheme I've mentioned (which in turn affects who is defending themselves from whom). That depends. Is it a farm you can farm on your own? If not, you can either own it...

You can choose to work together and own the whole of the property collectively (and there's a million billion different systems for how to divide that ownership that don't run afoul of the no-exploitation rule). Except the way things actually work currently is that you have one dipshit corporate...

Wait what? You can have a farm. You can't employ wage labor to work it and if you have more farm than you can work yourself you can't just let it lie fallow (if you don't/can't use it someone else can come along and use it and so long as they do it belongs to them and they don't have to pay...

I don't know... Has Obama ever made trade unions illegal and rolled over people in tanks who were demanding socialism? Cause if not, he doesn't sound like much of a communist to me.

Have you seen the redlettermedia review of it? It's spot on.

That doesn't apply to morons.

There's a lot of this there. Which this are you referring to?

He does it because he can't stand arguments he has no way to deal with. So "Marx isn't canon for socialism" becomes "Marx isn't canon for Marxism." It's retarded, he's retarded, and you're retarded for falling for it.

Yeah that's about right.

I missed all this. Mind linking your post?

Are you saying racism can't be funny? Cause that's not what I'm saying.

Try actually arguing your point with him sometime.

This is a waste of your time. You're not talking to a rational person.

I'll have to take your word for it.

So trollface, riddle me this. I've had the thought before that I could never be embarrassed by an asian person. Like if an asian person caught me doing something silly I just wouldn't give a shit. Is that because I don't see them as people? I think it might be. What's your opinion?

I don't think that's exactly the endgame of communism. An Anarchist FAQ - B.3 Why are anarchists against private property? | Infoshop.org

lol Is this a serious question? Jesus...you are serious. lol

lol No that's alright. OBVIOUSLY dressing up in black face/KKK members isn't racist at all.

Sorry I mean to say, speaking of awesome.

Speaking of racism...

Shit I'm not even a fan of Trotsky Kronstadt rebellion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be fair, his name is Trollface.

I'm assuming you're talking to hodj, here. I've paid very close attention to his argument. Here's how it goes: Marxism is a reasonable substitute for socialism generally because hodj has heard of a thing called Marxist dialectics and he's under the mistaken opinion that, as a result...

Bro the foundation of communism is calling yourself a communist. That's introductory logic.

Every way possible except giving workers control over the means of their work.

Doesn't matter. He said some stuff that's communist in nature. That means he's a communist even if he believes things that are blatantly contradictory to the fundamental criticisms of capitalism that underly socialism. That shit is fucking irrelevant because it doesn't lead to the conclusion...

Except that it totally is. Have you ever been there? It's like the South fucked the third world and gave birth to a waterhead baby.

Is that seriously the basis of that idiot's argument? Holy fuck.

lol

You could say it 400 times. When hodj hits an argument he can't deal with, he just ignores it and repeats whatever naked assertion of his prompted that argument. You're not talking to someone with the mental capacity to engage in real debate. It's a waste of your time. Don't let him troll you.

Bro, I don't know if you've heard but the essential property of Marxian communism is that you call yourself a communist.

Anyone who's not ashamed of Kentucky is redneck dipshit. That doesn't just go for people from Kentucky. That place is an embarrassment to humanity.