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If you guys regard "spamming the various trade channels" as a wonderful form of "player interaction," then I don't really know what to say. Go check out Path of Exile if you want to get a blast to the past in regards to that. Edit: Then again, that's pretty much theonlyplayer to player...

Yeah, that's why I added in the "probably is" bit. The main issue is reaching a wider audience and supporting people who don't have the pleasure of a relatively low ping to the game servers (searching "asheron's call lag" brings up some fun forum raging). It's still obviously made to...

I assume it's more because of ESO being an MMO over anything else. I wouldn't want to be the server guy for a game that has to track flight paths of every individual spell or arrow. Imagine the fun the players'd have with that on high latency, too. Even if it's technically possible (edit: don't...

Well gee, thanks. Now I have to check out whatever the hell Tibia is.

If they're naive enough not to have professional QA and testing teams on the idea that the people who paid for alpha access are going to turn alpha testing into their jobs, then I'll eat my hat. No - SOE is probably going to get enough money from thepresales themselvesto hire people for however...

How is he retarded? That is the difference, plain and simple. Now you're just flinging shit after you've run out of pebbles.

Silly me. Of all the things to click I didn't think of clicking the big one, only the one attached to the blog post (which doesn't have a link). Edit: And Idothink it was lacking that at first. It at least didn't have the text link in the blog post.

I can't imagine that it will be successfully funded, especially with that high of a request and such a low amount of in-engine footage. That being said, I hope it does succeed in the face of adversity (because they have a lot of interesting ideas). Edit: They also seem to have a tendency of...

As far as how sure of a bet it is that they won't fuck up, Landmark certainly looks like it has a better chance of succeeding. EQN could be very popular, though it's all down to execution on their ideas (and whether or not they can actually provide what they'vesaidthey can).

Correct? You mean confirmed. As inlove interest confirmed.

Uh, is thatnotwhat people could do (and did do for the most part if they were melee) in classic EQ?

The game's notthatexpansive

I have no ties to either party but to be fair, ZOhasmaintained that the game does not use the Hero Engine/will not use it in ESO's final iteration. The game has its issues but of all things to argue about this is rather silly. All we really have is one guy arguing that it justhasto be the Hero...

Yeah there really wasn't that much if you're not interested in the whys and hows of the round table, or the people behind the game. If you just care about seeing gameplay/information about the game(s) then there wasn't anything.

Last I checked, people who played MMOs weren't exactly "cool" by many metrics...

Any amount of "interaction," regardless of howactuallyinteractive it is, isobjectivelymore than the typical "we're making a game, it's coming out sometime in the future, await for future updates" reveals that typically happen (sounds like SOE in description but I'm talking about companies that...

Well it's pretty far out from release. I mean you reallyshouldjust be occasionally checking in on it; there's not going to be information about EQN specifically for some time, and it will most likely comeafterthe release of Landmark. Up until Landmark releases we're probably just going to get a...

I'd think he'd rather be able to actively play the game. Edit: (Not that he was even being negative. I mean, that's a pretty accurate description of certain aspects of the game).

If it keeps as much depth as Minecraft (which isn't very much IIRC; the depth is pretty much in the variety of materials and literal depth) and adds some combat that is actually interesting, then they game could have a rather large player base. We'll see though. At this point, much of it is in...

I guess that's why they have the Minecraft/Terraria/whatever style of tiered tool progression and the combat. Perhaps there will be some sort of placeable furnishing progression as well (furnaces etc.) but there really is no incentive to make your house look better (at least in the...

There are actually five tiers (of the world). It was in one of the more recent reviews, I believe.

Oh come now, they all supported holidays. No need to be so salty.

Alright, sure, that was incorrect. I see that. However, Butler himself did mention "walking through the forest where you spawn," so he's not the one making the claim (I was blowing that up quite a bit).

It's used out of context because the contextit was inwas regarding the literal ability of new players to not be able to see the game world during EQ1 nights. See? They don't want new players to log in, not be able to see nearly anything, say "What the fuck" and leave. It's not about making...

Well, FFXIV: ARR released recently. A lot of people like it although it had a bunch of server issues at launch, and many people feel like there isn't much of an endgame other than running a few dungeons over and over again (although I haven't played it myself so I'm not sure what there's really...

Really, there just isn't enough justification tonotdo them. Add that on to the fact that most MMO companies are trying to rope in the WoW crowd (so they try to do whatever they can to make them comfortable in a new game) and there you go.

Really? I like to come here for the kind of irrational shit that flies by because of the low moderation. I find it interesting.

Maybe yes, maybe no. It sure sounds great on paper but it reeks of foolish optimism. Rome wasn't built in a day.

I stop following the thread for a couple days and I come back tothis. UT, do you realize that's quite the large difference betweensayingwhat you "would do" and actually doing it? You seem to think that you're the first person who's ever thought, "These people are doing it all wrong but...

It's very smart. I mean, they're making out Landmark to be the place where people go to build shit and fuck around. People aren't going to get so pissy they just up and leave the game if SOE makes a mistake (that they can fix).

Just curious: Have you looked into EQN at all? Sure as hell sounds a lot like it.

Uh huh, that's the gist of it. The only game right now promising something like that is EQN although we'll see how that plays out come winter (or whenever EQNL gets the combat AI in).

Orthe alternative is a system where positioning matters and tanks still exist even though they don't get a button to just draw every creature in the surrounding area to them. It's possible to get rid of the holy trinity without turning it into GW2. Quit thinking in black and white. Edit: To...

They've said it before: It's not design by community.

Well I'll correct you: The quote is saying that the holy trinity restricts who can play with who based upon class. It has nothing to do with having "poor johnny actually send a tell to group," because he'd do that anyway without the trinity. The trinity just changes who he can play with...

Well, there can be lesser and higher levels of graphical fidelity but you're right, those both really mean nothing if the style/aesthetic is bad. A shiny turd is still a turd.

They're hoping for EQNL release this year but who knows if they can hit that. If the framework is mostly there like they claim it is (from having scrapped the project so many times) thenmaybe, but my bet's as good as anyone else's.

McQuaid got back together with SOE, probably gave some consulting on EQNext and other projects, then splintered off with well wishes. Now he's apparently getting a team together for an MMO that's under wraps.

Is there somewhere they're specifically posting these updates? I can't seem to find it.

What is this, the Entropia Universe thread?