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definitely enjoying this set so far

Grabbed the top one, thanks dude

Right, it's a great ARPG combat system where you're aoeing down hordes of mobs and doing some good action-oriented combos and stuff. Slower-paced EQ-style combat isn't comparable because it's a completely different genre outside of the MMO aspect, so it's really apples and oranges not some...

Every time I listen to Steven Sharif talk, since right back when this was revealed, it just stinks of so many dead-and-buried MMOs over the last 20 years. It's easy to excitedly talk about exciting ideas, and it's easy to get hyped by those exciting ideas, but until this stuff is actually...

This is definitely the in vogue type of MMO being developed at the moment, feeling like it has very similar concepts to Crowfall and Ashes (among others). From a few hours playing last night It feels like there's potential but it leans way too heavily on the "bring me bear asses" trope instead...

Kind of surprised at the lack of interest in this here. Picked it up on steam expecting to refund after 2 hours based on my previous meh experience in alpha, but ended up being completely hooked. It has a hell of a lot of the old school values that so many posters here are yearning for, like...

It might not've been totally intentional, but gotta say that a lot of the remote "barren" parts of VG kind of acted as a refreshing change. Obviously there were the areas that just straight-up weren't finished which sucked, but the big open plains that weren't littered with a mob every 3 metres...

So how busy is this? Can a random dude turn up to CB and get a group or is everyone running guild-only? Havent had a nostalgic EQ binge since P99 launched, feels like it might be time again...

Solution here is to allow rerunning of story mode, but the rewards are shit - UNLESS there's someone in the group running it for the first time, scaling depending on how many (to prevent shenanigans like not wanting to have more than 1 newb in thr group). Has the good ol effect of having people...

Yall are crazy, having an awesome time here. Yeah the devs have shown many signs of being totally incompetent in a lot of technical ways, but the overall vision of the game - as derivative as it might be - is very solid, and there just isn't anything else like it available atm. Recent stuff...

Ok after a couple of hours it's mostly sorted, despite there being more people in the zone than there were at the start.

So this has gotta be the worst MMO launch of recent memory. Considering everyone on the server paid $100, it's pretty ourageous that zoning is taking 20+ minutes right now (especially considering how much zoning you need to do early on)

Game design wise, Vanguard nailed it for me at launch (before they added all the fast travel and other dumbshit). The only problem that game had for me, and it was a kinda big one, was that it was coded like shit.

The problem is it's pretty much the only game that scratches that proper sandbox MMO itch (outside of Eve but I haven't touched that in ten years). There's so much wrong with the game, and the developers don't seem to really be on top of things, but because there's nothing else really like it...

Yeah I'm p sold on this game being amaze. Nolifed it to 50 and now getting into pvp as well as going back and getting deeper into the life skills side of things. It's the first MMO I've played in a long, long time that doesn't have me constantly wishing things were different while I played it...

Hows the pvp death penalty? Does it actually mean anything beyond just pushing someone off your grind spot for a short while til they run back? Am playing catchup and just nolifing it to 40-50ish atm as I had clearly misjudged this game severely.

Yeah let's not forget DAOC's Darkness Falls, still waiting for a game to recreate that kind of contested dungeon properly. Am only level 30 here though so maybe there's something similar? Also I think it's possible to have challenging pve raids/dungeons without having to go down the whole...

My impressions of this game have been pretty erratic, but I'm convinced it's good. When I first tried it, I had written it off completely as just another grindfest with lots of deliberately convoluted systems to distract. Then I realized the game has some old school design that I haven't seen...

Thanks for the technical update. Sounds like his cock may be the foundation of this entire game, which - personally - I find off-putting.

Pretty valid tbh, it's akin to comparing cRPGs to aRPGs. Diablo wasn't better than Baldur's Gate because it was faster paced. They're different approaches, and both are valid. The OP is talking about the lack of Baldur's Gates in MMOs (lack of Everquests, my analogy is basically pointless but...

Just need a recap, how deep is Brad's dick in this thing? I need to know because the amount of money I am prepared to put down is inversely proportional to Brad's dick-fathoms.

/thread sadly. One day this style of MMO will have a revival, I guarantee it. Just like roguelikes became hot as shit a few years back, the forgotten MMO prototypes will make a comeback eventaully. And people will hail them as being revolutionary, when in actual fact the industry had...

It's kind of concerning to me whenever I see an awesome-sounding MMO in development that seems to be attempting to reinvent the graphical wheel. If you're designing a game with mechanics that basically can't be found any more in modern MMOs, why play with fire trying to create particularly...

Was referring to the text that accompanied each map, not the map itself.

Ahh, EQAtlas... Where each zone would have paragraphs of info on its inhabitants, dangers and camp spots, like a traveller's guide. The post-EQ MMO equivalent would essentially just be a game walkthrough which explains the most optimal order of quests to take / hubs to visit. Kind of...

Awesome thanks man! Much appreciated

Don't suppose anyone has a guest pass spare? Been a couple years since I last nolife'd an MMO and I think I'm feeling the itch, would be cool to give this a spin and see what's what

So this is another "sandbox" game that completely overuses instancing or...?

I just don't see how it can be a genuine sandbox MMO when it's possible to do everything in completely isolated solo instances. This just removes all the integrity of a sandbox MMO for me - it becomes more like a non-linear Diablo than a modern UO. If it wasn't for that decision, I'd be all...

Ah good to know, I think I'll try to show restraint until the game gets to beta. I don't want to obsess over this like I did with Shadowbane back in the day. Head in sand until things are almost ready, I think.

Was about done with the game playing from green zones and not taking part in the territorial/political aspect of the game - each to their own, but for me that's the main selling point of this game. For raw skill-based pvp there are way better options in mmo and non-mmo forms - AO is kind of all...

So I've been trying to ignore this so I don't get into a Shadowbane-level hype-frenzy, but I think it's time. How much money do I need to throw at the devs in order to play ASAP?

Actually looking forward to spamming Kerrigan games again, moreso than playing monk. Loved playing her back in alpha when she had rewind, but since then she's just been chipped away at so much. New patch gives her some awesome build options that don't compromise her burst. Plus, new map is fun.

It's nothing to do with micromanaging, it's something you end up doing to have maximum control over your movements. It's like a boxer dancing on both feet (it's obviously not like that but go with it) - if you need to suddenly dodge a skillshot or change direction rapidly for some reason you're...

Thing about Kael is he is really ONLY good at 16+. Before then, you can have way, way more impact as Jaina, who is impossible to escape from and can do far more burst damage. At 16, a good jaina will beat a good kael 1v1, and Jaina has slightly more survivability than Kael (ice block + chill...

Any account running a bot like that for a decent period of time will have its mmr sink right to the bottom of the barrel. Must suck to see them and lose because of them but they can't be that common if you've got even average mmr.

Bot as in the AI that replaces someone when they DC? Or some kind of hack? I've played thousands of games of heroes and never heard of any bot stuff, at least not anything that could be remotely a threat in an actual game.

This is the biggest problem about a potential map hack being discovered. Everyone has another excuse to tell themselves when they get beat.

With butcher, and the popularity of lamb to the slaughter, cleanse is more powerful than ever, even in pubs.