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If I was VR, I would begin preparing the KS relaunch now. I would have a low target ($250Kish) with a budgeted plan to complete a proper tech demo. No studio. I would launch as soon after the current KS ends as possible.

It is inevitable that VR is going to get funded. It is clear there is support to get this idea off the ground. If this KS fails, I believe they'll be able to recover most of the funds offered this round; either through a new expedited KS (I say that not knowing the rules) or a more direct...

The KS needs to average more than $15K per day the rest of the way to be within range of a $240K miracle the final three days. I agree that this KS has miracle potential due to high interest, but it needs to maintain what it's done today to enable that.

I think the video was great for the KS and I don't want to criticize it at all. But I disagree here. A man takes ownership and looks you in the eye. Brad handled the question like a wounded animal. It showed he cared, but it was a "all these bad things happened to me" answer. A man...

I love the interview. This is all the stuff I loved when learning EQ. Except the Trak zerg.

I would love for someone to keep it real with Brad. If he handled it well and said the right things, he could win over a lot of people like me. Edit: The gushing fan interviews thus far have likely not swayed a single cynic. Like that mmobuff interview: talk show rubbish.

- mentoring - brotherhood - rest exp - isle of dawn - hideous group class balance (non-existent) - cheap flying mount rentals (were supposed to be high end loot) - trivial fast travel - etc He further butchered VG. Maybe because SOE upper management instructed him to.

So far today... backers: 40 pledges: $11696 avg: $292.40 Loot whores.

Anyone who has followed Brad's games long enough should know that chatting with fans about his games appears to be what he enjoys most in life. It's a labor of love.

I was the hardcore player in that scenario.My wardrobe in EQ was worth more than I spend on clothes in 10 years.

hardcore player: "I'm going to impress those noobs with my elite gear" noob: "wow, that guy must have no life. or ebay. loser. I'm going to ask him for shit."

"MSFT..." "..dark place..." "know myself better" should be: "I deeply regret launching Vanguard prematurely. It was not ready. I apologize for misleading my customers prior to and after launch. I understand how frustrating it was. I recognize I let my team and fans down. I learned...

Sure I have. I have said I want this game to happen. I participate in this thread because it's extremely interesting to me. I tend to discuss things interesting to me. I'm not always positive about topics interesting to me. Pretty shocking, huh?

As a skeptic on the fence, this does not assure me at all. Especially because VR came to the KS table so unprepared. Your group does not appear to have its act together. I think you have to realize that your past doesn't disappear just because you want it to. There's a lot of once-burned...

According to Kicktraq, there are 24 days and 2 mins remaining... - current daily avg: $14,874 - required daily avg: $22,797 - past 7 days daily avg: $9,528 - 24 full days remaining - $15,000*21 + $80,000*3 + $252,296 = $807,296 The project needs to avg $15K/day the next 21 days to be...

IMO, this is because Brad lives in a 90s reality. That's why he has to setup a studio before starting on a game and calls shooting video expensive.

I loved that this could happen. I've seen it happen to other guilds and it was terrifying ordeal for them - the results of hundreds of hours of gameplay potentially decaying. And it allows other players to actually be heroic. Or maybe laugh at or taunt them because you actually don't like...

Did this kill the thread?

This guy wins the "my game is more hardcore" debate:

And guys who play FPS games exclusively watch this thread and say "lol this guy thinks mmos are hard omg lololololrofllol" and then the RTS guy laughs at the FPS guy and some guy with a different hobby laughs at him while being somehow dismissed by someone else.

What has Brad overcome? All he's done is run a poor KS with almost no substance at all. It doesn't sound as if you believe in him. Even without more money, he could have arrived on time, organized and with a lot more details fleshed out than he has. This isn't an issue of forgiveness or...

That depends on who they talk to. When they talk to a more general audience, they talk about things like brotherhoods, mentoring, cross-server play, etc.. Waiting for word on this gem from VG. Salim really gets it. Reduced Xp Gain Effect: When this buff is active, your character will...

Brad's wealthy life-long friend who won't back his games.

He is a video game legend with a huge, successful resume. Yeah, I frequently forget his name over the years, but when I remember, respect is immediately restored. Without digging into the past, Brad's track record isn't even remotely comparable. It's suggestions to the contrary that bring out...

- Gigantic audience - Incredible amount of good will - No baggage - Achievable goal

No way. They have faction quests written all over them.

I enjoyed a lot of quests in 2007. I say 2007, because later they all became stupidly easy; not that they were ever hard. Off the top of my head, I remember: - the arena - xennu shard quests - panther clicky - skeleton clicky - swamp armor - hegnerian's cloak - rhaz/zull weapon/crown...

$10 SBS $15 Dragoon Dirk $50 Stein of Moggok $75 Rubicite $125 FBR $500 Yak $800 Yaks $1000 GEB $2,000 GBS $5,000 Guise of the deceiver $7,500 FBSS $10,000 Fungi tunic $100,000 Manastone That could get the game fully funded. He can always nerf them later. Fuck people who buy loot!

In a twitch interview yesterday, it was implied Salim also has a limited selection of functional shirts.

Brad should cancel the KS and fund this on ebay.

We've solved Brad's problem. RMT. Announce that illusion masks will only ever be available through the KS. For the high tiers. The lower tiers can get Rubicite.

I have no faith in SOE at all. If you do happen to enjoy a game from them, you can expect it to probably change to suit a larger audience they're chasing. Just like the poor RPGer early adopters of EQ before it went viral in the Quake community. I say that as one of those hyper-competitive...

Don't let EQN fool you. It's the same shit from SOE: abandon everything they did previously for today's buzz. SOE was out of ideas before it started. The next big thing, from a big publisher or not, will probably be from some dudes we don't know yet. The guys SOE will be copying next...

It's way too early to call this KS dead. I can see it having a strong finish from other idiots like me remaining on the fence despite a near total disbelief these guys can make a decent game on a low budget, funded KS or not. But if it does fail, it should not be considered reflective of the...

I don't think it's an average joe issue. IMO, the main issue remains trust within the audience he's targeting. Against my better judgment, I've remained on the fence. I may contribute to the final rush if it seems viable. That is if he doesn't marginalize the game before the KS ends...

That's what should have happened. Neither the studio or the publisher should have let it go live in that condition. VG may have eventually been enjoyed by many, but the ends don't justify the means. IIRC, SOE was paying the bills before launch. I believe they also provided some engineers or...

They're going to show Vu working while the rest of the team continues to.. research.. P99.

Defiance is a MMO3PS. Flop. Awful content and implementation of series lore. Quests, bad. It was fun to race to encounters...and then shoot at a rock for 5 minutes with 30 other people.

I have. I bet Brad could actually pimp most of them out to johns if he chose to fund Pantheon that way. It's worth a shot IMO.

This can be said about any point made repeatedly, including the ones I've responded with and the ones I'm responding to. Discussions result in subdiscussions. If you say, "I think this because of X", X may be challenged and discussed too. I happen to believe the critical issue with the KS...