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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Exactly. Come out the gate with a fully fleshed world, packing some cool new features and a commitment toactuallydoing it differently and I think there is a market. Every MMO in recent memory has been all over the "We do it different!" angle but none of them deliver, they just get trapped in...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It *is* needed to convey what your character intuitively understands but the player looking through the window doesn't,who said it. You can't guarantee every player has a mic, has surround sound or indeed is capable of talking/hearing. Idothink chat distance should be limited though, maybe...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    For me UI should be limited to things that your character would intuitively know OR things that can't be done well in 3D the world. For instance you can't properly create a 3D backpack that you can sort through so instead you use a UI and slots to represent it and I can't just sense how much...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You know mudflation is going to mean you totally turtle up. One on the top of your helmet, one on each knee, feet shields for the ground monsters.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It's going tobethe hardcore MMO I think. I asked if they had anything in the pipe for people who don't like their recent games/new stuff "oh yeah" was the response. Although, it's possible it was a threat. Oh yeah?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They are shutting down Vanguard, July 31st403 Forbidden Is this Brad's master plan, did he know this was coming? Probably not.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm convinced people know, it's just fell completely flat on its face. It's been posted on pretty much every gaming site there is and each time it just slides on by without much fan fair. No comments, a smattering of social shares and no real pick up on the backer count. It's just the same ~1600...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So this is the vibe now?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The assumption that the old team had a master plan was good enough for some people to back it. The way the Kickstarter was run proved they were wrong to assume that, so they backed out. It's not difficult to understand.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So transparency has actually been the problem. If they had went full on Vanguard bullshit mode and talked about every little rock they dream of having in the game the page would actually look like a fleshed out idea and might be doing better. The Vision? might actually let them skip by showing...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Update 11 -Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen by Visionary Realms, Inc. Kickstarter tl;dr? Whoa you have nothing, crazy. Look over there it's stuff! Go get it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Please, for the love of Karana, put this on the Kickstarter page. People need to know you have actual code that does things.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Depends how it's done, if it's not too weak and it's a sort of"Fuck, this place is harsh.. I should do something about that or this will suck"then it could be quite cool. It mentions swamps maybe being poisonous so if Trolls are immune but everyone else needs gear with X to deal with it, nifty...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen characters may have to acclimatize to their environments | PC Gamer
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It's hard to tell. I think there is certainly a population of people who don't play on P1999 but still want the game, I'm one of those people. I think P1999 is cool but I don't get the same feeling I do from any MMO, for some reason I don't get that buzz of being part of a currently evolving and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What if the negatives result in the Kickstarter not being successful? Just hypothetical, let's say Brad and his vision doesn't extend to being able to do a good Kickstarter. It doesn't matterwhatthe downfall is, if we all just go along on the positive and assume they'll get it right...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This official reply just went into the comments on KS;
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It hasvery littleto do with the actual name. You're right, it doesn't matter what they named it but that's not because people would complain no matter what it's because people are at near the edge with the overall campaign. The Cleric update was shit too but that was a few days ago and people...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I am honestly trying to stay neutral but some of the comments on the KS page, they arestillbleeting on about how the name isn't a problem despite repeated attempts to inform them that's not the issue people are talking about.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Agreed, they seriously need a small group of people to bounce stuff off before they actually do it because theyclearlyhave no idea what the expectations are. They seem to be treating this the same way you do already funded projects. Doesn't work on Kickstarter, nobody cares if you think it's...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As I said on the Kickstarter comments, whatever class/race updates they have lined up they need to just release now. Sod this one little item of boring-was-obiously-in-the-game stuff. Do they think the world is hanging on their every word?"Oooooh a Cleric class, I can't wait to find out what...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'd like some kind of system where you compete somehow for an instance, it's not just default. Normal set up would be open zone with shared boss but if the boss is down, you do X, have Y and meet several other difficult criteria then you get one shot at an instanced version, maybe then have some...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Having just wrote a shortarticleabout this and poured over the data I'm cautiously optimisticif they make a few more changes. You say that each backing is 'only $125', the site wide average for Kickstarter is $70. Projects like Star Citizen or Project Eternity were $63 and $53 respectively (and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm one of the people who think PVP should just be an alternative ruleset server with no attention paid to balance, so yes it's a little annoying to have it 'sooner' than crafting.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I love this idea, it would be cool to have map making as your ongoing profession. You could tie it to class too, Rangers are better at mapping large outdoor spaces, Rogue's can map behind locked doors, Magic users can unveil secret magical passages. That'd be awesome.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I hadn't seen this, now fixed the graphic. Thanks.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    EDITLasch is correct, Paragon's doesnotcome with lifetime $1 sub.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You can register with email if you'd like, on this pageRegister I'll get that link on the menu fixed.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Surely Kickstarter does some kind of check of available funds? Wouldn't do their reputation any good if you could pledge huge amounts of money then when the end of a campaign comes their charges get rejected and no money appears.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It seems to depend on just how successful the Kickstarter is, the more money they get the less they need from someone else and therefor the less control that someone will have. This is what he said on IGN, emphasis mine;
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    Kildrukaun's Prophecy - Progression server

    I was going to make a Rogue but it just seemed like a massive amount of hassle for little payoff.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Looks like it, couple of times I've seen Brad say "More will be revealed in the PC Gamer interview!".
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    He confirmed on Twitter there will be an SK class. Twitter / Aradune: @LemonKingi @PantheonRotF yes! EDIT: I'm too smegging slow for this thread!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I believe 2006 was the last Monday, Dec 4th.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Phil. Phil is the name you should use when bullshitting. Everywhere has a Phil.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Please, someone inform us all there is no Holiday Inn Staybridge.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Notanymoron, but a moron with history of actually delivering something that resembles a game? Sure.
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    Kildrukaun's Prophecy - Progression server

    You don't need 3 copies and/stick holdis the full command you probably want, just /stick will cause stick to whoever you are targeting (including the mob you're trying to nuke)